"Better" how? You guys really need to talk more in terms of how this is evolutionarily "better" in terms of gene propagation. I understand what you're saying to a degree, i'm clearly not a complete dunce when it comes to evolutionary theory, but i'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this.
DH and FC's Assertion: Domesticated cattle, which are but a
shadow of their former, wild selves, are "better off" evolutionarily because they have a guaranteed passing of their genes, an effort secured by human domestication. This is good because even though we're killing them for meat, and deciding FOR THEM who, when, and if they get to fuck, and because otherwise they would starve to death and go extinct without humans (because grass is really hard to come by).
What I can't wrap my head around, is how this is really "better" for the cattle, and by what universal standards? I see what you're saying in regard to passing your genes to future generations, but the fact that we are the ones controlling it and purposefully only letting the fattest, beefiest, laziest and least menacing creatures breed with each other. Real help we're doing for their gene pool i'm sure.
And what the fuck is "holothetic logic"? How come nobody's giving him shit for that? I can't find it on a dictionary anywhere. At least "food" and "value" are well-known words.
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Originally Posted by DJ FC
We didn't do it to just cows. We did it to dogs and cats too. And being a well-fed well-fucking cow that will die for human food is better than a starving cow that doesn't fuck in the wild.
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So you think that dogs and cats would be extinct without human interference? What about all the dogs and cats we don't let breed, or killed in the process of artificial selection, or the dogs and cats that we spay/neuter? How is this a good idea for them?
For the record, since I do know a bit more than I would wager to say all of you about raising cattle, most beef cattle are steers. That means they are castrated young and aren't permitted to pass on their genes. On an evolutionary scale (compared to humans, anyways), a very select few male cattle are permitted to turn into bulls and have their semen studded out.