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Unread 10-05-2012, 11:22 AM   #1276 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination View Post
I disagree. Here's why:

If God created the universe, that means he would exists outside of space and time. If God exists outside of nature, how could we ever hope to prove his existence empirically with science when science is for explaining the natural world?
This is incorrect. By very definition, god interacts directly with the natural/physical world --through prayers, miracles, CREATION -- and so the evidence of god's existence falls within the realm of science. Anything that affects reality/nature can be observed and (hopefully) eventually explained by science.

Which puts your SJG quote (which believers cling to like it's jesus christ's torso) down pretty immediately. I have no idea how half of his colleagues are mistaken -- as I mentioned before, just the human need to believe. Scientists CAN comment on it -- in the most scientific way possible:

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I need to see evidence before I am convinced of the truth of this.
Bare minimum, and 'god' can't even provide a scrap.

Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.

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