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Repugnant Abomination · 06-10-2012, 10:53 PM

GF2045

Mr. Blonde · 07-28-2012, 03:33 AM

lol @ "skeptics" -- don't deserve the name.

Are climate sceptics more likely to be conspiracy theorists? | Adam Corner | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Repugnant Abomination · 07-30-2012, 01:12 AM

Just watched a good documentary about the coming singularity on Netflix. Check it out.

Transcendent Man - Official Trailer HD (2011) - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 07-30-2012, 01:16 AM

Know it's Kurzweil without even watching the trailer....meh. Smart guy, wayyyyyy too optimistic for humanity IMHO.

Repugnant Abomination · 07-30-2012, 01:22 AM

Well, we'll know in our lifetimes whether he was or not. I for one am hopeful.

Mr. Blonde · 07-30-2012, 10:57 AM

Start dat pill diet then boiiiii

Dent · 03-08-2013, 11:15 PM

Homunculism by Colin McGinn | The New York Review of Books
Negative review of Kurzweil's latest book "How to Create a Mind: The Secret of Human Thought Revealed"
He doesn't like the anthropomorphic language Kurweil uses one bit

Amoeba eats two paramecia (Amoeba's lunch) - YouTube

oh the humanity!

Dent · 04-24-2013, 12:21 PM

fuck the selfish genes that we have been slaves to for billions of years, now we get some choice in the matter.
It may be a pipe dream/porn for technophiles/sci-fi but I think it's worth investigating to find out.

The Abolitionist Project
How our descendants will rewrite the vertebrate genome,
redesign the global ecosystem, and abolish
suffering throughout the living world.
The Abolitionist Project
Quantum Ethics? Suffering In The Multiverse
Abolitionist .com : Reprogramming Predators : Blueprint for a Cruelty-Free World
most of the comments are from dumb fucks that didn't read his work, i'd like to see some real criticism of it.
comments : Predatory animals are bad and should be allowed to go extinct, or should be modified to become kind and herbivorous – Tetrapod Zoology

Saint DH · 04-24-2013, 05:26 PM

Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

Predators keep animal populations in check

Muh carrying capacity

Dent · 04-24-2013, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent

most of the comments are from dumb fucks that didn't read his work, i'd like to see some real criticism of it.

Reading past the title would help DH, give it a go it's interesting.
edit : Do the Humanimals need a predator too? ought we start praying for one?

Dent · 07-19-2013, 12:16 PM

Does anyone have healthcare that offers sequencing and analysis of your genome?
Get it checked.

Orgazmo · 07-19-2013, 12:26 PM

Looks like https://www.23andme.com/?utm_source=...FUhgMgodmhIANw is only $99. Sounds pretty interesting.

Since we didn't do the testosterone thing, who wants to have a dna genotyping contest?

Saint DH · 07-19-2013, 12:35 PM

Most Americans with insurance are probably covered if it is necessary for diagnosing a disease, assuming your deductible is met. But as for just doing it for the fuck of it, I doubt any insurance company will pay for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orgazmo

Looks like https://www.23andme.com/?utm_source=...FUhgMgodmhIANw is only $99. Sounds pretty interesting.

Since we didn't do the testosterone thing, who wants to have a dna genotyping contest?

Didn't see this. Looks pretty cool.

Dent · 07-19-2013, 01:30 PM

DNA profiling has been around for a while, it's gimmicky compared to whole genome sequencing which will cost around $5k, and a lot less powerful.
You can then have your genome compared with the Human Reference genome and find things that you are susceptible to.

Fun games to play with yourself and others after getting your code
Smoke for a year and see how many base pair mutations you've picked up
and
Dodge that frameshift mutation!

slightly OT but I read the other day that by age 80 ~100% of men get some kind of prostate cancer

Dent · 07-19-2013, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Most Americans with insurance are probably covered if it is necessary for diagnosing a disease, assuming your deductible is met. But as for just doing it for the fuck of it, I doubt any insurance company will pay for that.

It is vital for diagnosing (genetic) disease and vital for health care, diagnosing by symptom is crude. the gene allows us to predict prior to onset giving you warning about what you should and shouldn't be doing to live a healthy life.

Could also find out what code you have that's unique to you.

Sex, Death And The Meaning Of Life Episode 2 Richard Dawkins on Vimeo

Interesting clip where Dawkins learns about his genome and the 100 "ticking time bomb" mutations in his code. Only 5 minutes long and starts 39 minutes in.

Edit : acting like it's not important for bacterial and viruses that cause disease, and dosage too. as well as future benefits from epigenetics and evo-devo.

thurd edit
http://www.illumina.com/clinical/ill..._patients.ilmn $10k

Saint DH · 07-19-2013, 03:19 PM

The most important part about this type of research is learning the methods by which DNA code can be altered. By doing this we could theoretically eliminate all disease and possibly even aging. Basically, it could lead to immortality from cellular death/mutation.

Dent · 08-21-2013, 03:04 PM

NANTS INGONYAMA BAGITHI BABA
SITHI UHM INGONYAMA

Mini Documentary - The Hedonistic Imperative - David Pearce (Take 1) - YouTube

Mr. Blonde · 08-26-2013, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

The most important part about this type of research is learning the methods by which DNA code can be altered. By doing this we could theoretically eliminate all disease and possibly even aging. Basically, it could lead to immortality from cellular death/mutation.

This has been a biological eventuality for quite some time.

New Details Discovered | Telomere Research | Research in Action | LiveScience

Mr. Blonde · 08-26-2013, 02:20 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/ma...mortality.html

Saint DH · 08-27-2013, 07:12 AM

Will it happen in our lifetimes? I feel like we're so close to expanding the human lifespan many times over, yet still there is so much progress to be made.

FYI, the life extension foundation has published research about telomere length and cell life for a decade.

Mr. Blonde · 08-27-2013, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Will it happen in our lifetimes? I feel like we're so close to expanding the human lifespan many times over, yet still there is so much progress to be made.

FYI, the life extension foundation has published research about telomere length and cell life for a decade.

Not sure, some people think yes, some people think no. Even if we do, it would likely be a very crude process, and I doubt the luxury will be extended to anyone who doesn't have a significant fortune. One could potentially use the current and very limited amount of people who can afford space tourism, vs. how many will be able to in 30 years, as a sort of comparison.

I have no doubt, however (pending a global catastrophe that would significantly set back or annihilate the human race), that our science will eventually achieve a form of immortality, one way or another.

The more people who are interested and working in fields related to longevity research, the better chance we have, though.

Dent · 08-27-2013, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

I have no doubt, however (pending a global catastrophe that would significantly set back or annihilate the human race), that our science will eventually achieve a form of immortality, once way or another.

No doubt? how are you planning on being around when there is no usable energy left in the universe?
Telomeres do not equal immortality, there are lots of other ways in which DNA mutates, mentioned some further up this page.
I'll give a little biology lesson on telomeres here later

Mr. Blonde · 08-27-2013, 12:33 PM

Well, there being no energy left in the universe would technically classify as much greater than (but inclusive of) a global catastrophe.

Dent · 08-27-2013, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Well, there being no energy left in the universe would technically classify as much greater than (but inclusive of) a global catastrophe.

n.
1. a sudden and widespread disaster.
2. any misfortune or failure; fiasco.
3. a disastrous end.
4. the point in a drama following the climax and introducing the conclusion.
5. a sudden, violent disturbance, esp. of a part of the surface of the earth.

By which definition?
The density of the universe has been decreasing since the "big bang" it will continue to decrease until there is none left, over billions of years.
nothing sudden about that, life wouldn't exist without that.

Second law of thermodynamics and entropy is not a catastrophe, and it's not sudden by our imagination.

Mr. Blonde · 08-27-2013, 01:09 PM

Who said sudden?

Gentlemen, I'd like you all to meet the new Mr. Blonde: Dent.

08-26-2013, 02:20 PM	#219 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/ma...mortality.html
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Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Well, there being no energy left in the universe would technically classify as much greater than (but inclusive of) a global catastrophe.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

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Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Know it's Kurzweil without even watching the trailer....meh. Smart guy, wayyyyyy too optimistic for humanity IMHO.

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Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 161638	Well, we'll know in our lifetimes whether he was or not. I for one am hopeful.

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Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Start dat pill diet then boiiiii

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Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,473 Internets: 174266	fuck the selfish genes that we have been slaves to for billions of years, now we get some choice in the matter. It may be a pipe dream/porn for technophiles/sci-fi but I think it's worth investigating to find out. The Abolitionist Project How our descendants will rewrite the vertebrate genome, redesign the global ecosystem, and abolish suffering throughout the living world. The Abolitionist Project Quantum Ethics? Suffering In The Multiverse Abolitionist .com : Reprogramming Predators : Blueprint for a Cruelty-Free World most of the comments are from dumb fucks that didn't read his work, i'd like to see some real criticism of it. comments : Predatory animals are bad and should be allowed to go extinct, or should be modified to become kind and herbivorous – Tetrapod Zoology

04-24-2013, 05:26 PM	#209 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,124 Internets: 284753	Get the fuck out of here with that shit. Predators keep animal populations in check Muh carrying capacity

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Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,473 Internets: 174266	Does anyone have healthcare that offers sequencing and analysis of your genome? Get it checked.

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Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,683 Internets: 305662	Looks like https://www.23andme.com/?utm_source=...FUhgMgodmhIANw is only $99. Sounds pretty interesting. Since we didn't do the testosterone thing, who wants to have a dna genotyping contest?

07-19-2013, 01:30 PM	#214 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,473 Internets: 174266	DNA profiling has been around for a while, it's gimmicky compared to whole genome sequencing which will cost around $5k, and a lot less powerful. You can then have your genome compared with the Human Reference genome and find things that you are susceptible to. Fun games to play with yourself and others after getting your code Smoke for a year and see how many base pair mutations you've picked up and Dodge that frameshift mutation! slightly OT but I read the other day that by age 80 ~100% of men get some kind of prostate cancer

07-19-2013, 03:19 PM	#216 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,124 Internets: 284753	The most important part about this type of research is learning the methods by which DNA code can be altered. By doing this we could theoretically eliminate all disease and possibly even aging. Basically, it could lead to immortality from cellular death/mutation.

08-27-2013, 07:12 AM	#220 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,124 Internets: 284753	Will it happen in our lifetimes? I feel like we're so close to expanding the human lifespan many times over, yet still there is so much progress to be made. FYI, the life extension foundation has published research about telomere length and cell life for a decade.

08-27-2013, 01:09 PM	#225 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 278288	Who said sudden? Gentlemen, I'd like you all to meet the new Mr. Blonde: Dent.