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Unread 09-06-2012, 12:35 PM   #751 (permalink)
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Fuck what the Republican party is today.
This. But also FC is right. There is such a thing as an intelligent conservative. There is an argument to be made for states' rights and small government. It's just so.... lost... in the shit. For the best four years, the Republican party has been run by desperation, and they are willing to make the country a worse place if it helps their party (or more accurately, if it hurts the Dems... i.e. hurts Obama's chances at reelection.)

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Why do you want to vote Republican? Is your only reason because you believe Obama to be worse?
the enemy of your enemy is not your friend?

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What if you're of the opinion that you want your political beliefs to count (and therefore must select either Republican or Democrat)
Not following this/not understanding.
Why would your political beliefs not count if you vote third party?
Is there a word for those that wouldn't vote for someone they aren't 100% behind?

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So obviously I (and half of America along with me) am either stupid or evil. Or both.
Nothing to do with the thread but why are you using half of America to defend your thoughts?
Anyone here not think that half of America(+ all countries) is stupid? enjoyed blonde's post on this


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George W. Bush's legacy might prove too steep for Romney to overcome, much like McCain in 2008. Listening to Bill Clinton last night, and the impact he had, really illustrates how helpful it is for parties to have a popular past president promoting his party's nominee. The Republicans don't have that now that Reagan's gone.
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Unread 09-06-2012, 04:38 PM   #755 (permalink)
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Lol oh for fuck's sake.
I think Obama would be in agreement that he is more populist; but even that is not a sincere belief?

Essentially only your reasons for voting are valid.
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Unread 09-06-2012, 04:41 PM   #756 (permalink)
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I saw a post the other day about Romney saying he would do away with Medical Marijuana dispensaries, put people growing for the dispensaries in jail.
Obamas DEA is already doing this, with much more intensity than W. Look at what happened to Oaksterdam
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Obamas DEA is already doing this, with much more intensity than W. Look at what happened to Oaksterdam
That's true, definitely not happy about that. But I still think it would be worse under Romney.
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Obama: 'Help Us Destroy Jesus And Start A New Age Of Liberal Darkness' | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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Tax Cuts Don't Lead to Economic Growth, a New 65-Year Study Finds - Derek Thompson - The Atlantic
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Tax cuts may not, but government cuts sure do!
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Does this story prove that raising taxes helps GDP? No. Does it prove that cutting taxes hurts GDP? No.


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Article doesn't prove shit except that there are forces much stronger than taxes that affect GDP growth, such as technological advances and the collapse of major economic "bubbles", which is nothing new.

Also, the Bush tax cuts were for personal income tax only. I wonder what a reduction in the corporate tax rates would do.
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Unread 09-17-2012, 08:20 AM   #764 (permalink)
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FC, your shit is getting old. We get it, you hate taxes. You like bitcoins. WE FUCKING GET IT YOU ASSHOLE.

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Unread 09-18-2012, 03:04 AM   #765 (permalink)
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That should make a great hole to dig himself out of for the next couple of weeks.

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Full video. Ignoring the 47% sound bite. When I see it I don't really hear anything too bad. He sounds really intelligent and perceptive in this video. It answers the question as to whether or not he knows foreign policy. I wish I could get a chance to see Obama uncensored like this.

If he would change his mind on cutting taxes, I would 100% vote for him if I had to within the next hour.


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What I find most interesting and sad is that politics have come to a point in this country where you can't say what you really think. It's such an admission by everyone freaking out about this that yeah, we know politicians lie and say whatever they have to in order to get elected; we know everything is scripted and they have handlers and surrogates and people write all of their speeches for them. None of these goddamn politicians are real people because the shitty system won't let them be.
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Repug, being that Ron Paul is different than what you stated, do you think the media has anything to do with dismissing candidates from actual contention?
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Sure, more often indirectly than directly. But at this point I think we need to reconsider what "the media" even is. Not in the "mainstream/lamestream" populist sense either. We need to completely deconstruct it, follow the money...The whole thing is a mess.
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Yeah, follow the money.... we gotta stop busting the street-level yos... put in some wire taps... follow it all the way to the top.

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The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.
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I would recommend ignoring the full video and watching Jon's take on it:

Jon Stewart Tears Apart Romney’s Assertions About The ‘Dependent’ 47 Percent | Mediaite

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Romney Apologizes To Nation's 150 Million 'Starving, Filthy Beggars' | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

It just occurred to me that to the technology generation, politics has always been quite literally nothing but a joke. I don't mean that in the colloquial, "politics are such a joke" way. I mean that most of what many of us learn from politics comes from pundits.


Do conservatives have any sites or TV shows that actually humorously critique liberals? Why isn't there a Colbert Report or a John Stewart for conservatives? I know both of these shows, (along with SNL, other comedy shows, etc) frequently also rip the left, but it doesn't take a genius to see they're all very left leaning.

Are conservatives not funny? Or are they just not right?

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The right play to emotions while the left play to the needy. If the right rips the needy, they are viewed as bad people.
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