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Old 09-10-2012, 07:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Had a conversation about this today.

Who here could go out right now and drive a stick perfectly?
Who would be rusty but could do it?
Who could get the car moving?
Who thinks they could learn?
Who is hopeless?

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Old 09-10-2012, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A question for those that drive a manual, do you think you could drive with the stick to the left of you?
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I drive a stick every day.

I would think most people could at least get the car moving even if they stall it every time they stop.

Surely everyone could learn.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I drive a stick every day.

I would think most people could at least get the car moving even if they stall it every time they stop.

Surely everyone could learn.
Just wait; try and have somebody drive your car. It's a bitch when you're fucked up, because nobody can use your car to like give you a ride.
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Manual transmission is no problem, even when completely fucked up.

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Old 09-10-2012, 08:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Who double clutches / rev matches? Could you drive without synchros?
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Driving w/o synchros/double clutching seems really tricky, and I think it would take some getting used to. I'm not sure if I could pull it off from the start without practice.
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If you can do it in a normal car, you get it pretty quick without synchros. Basically if can you do heel/toe shifting?
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I guess that's how it would have to be. You'd have to have one clutch to disengage the tranny from the engine and another to disengage the collar from the gear. But I think you'd have to re-engage everything in the opposite, so you'd put the collar on the gear and then engage the engine to the tranny. The process would have to be heel-toe-heel.

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A question for those that drive a manual, do you think you could drive with the stick to the left of you?
I don't think having the stick on the left would be too bad, but being on the right side of the car and left side of the road would be the real bitch.

If you switched the clutch position to the right, that would be very difficult to get used to.
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Double clutching is not a big deal. Used to have to do it on the trucks in the army and a couple of older AMC cars. But that was back when those vehicles had only 3 gears and you'd stay in first for a little while. There's really no reason to double clutch anymore. Except, I think every one puts it in neutral while coasting short distances now and then.

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Heel/toe is just hitting all 3 at once.
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Double clutching is not a big deal. Used to have to do it on the trucks in the army and a couple of older AMC cars. But that was back when those vehicles had only 3 gears and you'd stay in first for a little while. There's really no reason to double clutch anymore. Except, I think every one puts it in neutral while coasting short distances now and then.
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Double clutching is not a big deal. Used to have to do it on the trucks in the army and a couple of older AMC cars. But that was back when those vehicles had only 3 gears and you'd stay in first for a little while. There's really no reason to double clutch anymore. Except, I think every one puts it in neutral while coasting short distances now and then.
You don't need to double clutch anymore, but it's much smoother and quicker to do it on downshifts.
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I wish I had a stick right now but they were all fairly more expensive for my price range.

The next truck I get will be both a 4x4 and a stick shift. Especially though on the 4x4, good god. Never really realize how important that is until you have a truck without it. A few days ago I got stuck in a 12" drop off and could barely get out with my little desert whelp.
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Yes I can drive a "Manuel" transmission car. Even if the stick is to the left of you (which is actually better for driving as your right hand never leaves the wheel). I can also shift the gears on a motorcycle, which is way more fun.


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(which is actually better for driving as your right hand never leaves the wheel). I can also shift the gears on a motorcycle, which is way more fun.
Assuming the driver is right-handed, that is...speaking of, I thought you were left handed?

Seconded that if you can shift a motorcycle it's much easier to drive stick.
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Assuming the driver is right-handed, that is...speaking of, I thought you were left handed?

Seconded that if you can shift a motorcycle it's much easier to drive stick.
I'm not sure I get the motorcycle reference. That sequential gear system is almost idiot proof and gear grinding seems really forgivable on a bike.

I'd guess the more difficult double clutch/rev shifting for AP occurred with double clutching and column shifting. Column shifting seemed so fucking non-intuitive compared to a floor shifter. But, I haven't seen one of those in a long time.

I'll confess that AP isn't much at using the toe-heel method in down shifting. I really never found a need to do that except for engine braking scenarios in the piece of shit army truck that had air brakes.

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I'm saying a Motorcycle is more fun cus you can rev the fuck out of it and get all nasty on the transmission.


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I'm not sure I get the motorcycle reference. That sequential gear system is almost idiot proof and gear grinding seems really forgivable on a bike.

I'd guess the more difficult double clutch/rev shifting for AP occurred with double clutching and column shifting. Column shifting seemed so fucking non-intuitive compared to a floor shifter. But, I haven't seen one of those in a long time.

I'll confess that AP isn't much at using the toe-heel method in down shifting. I really never found a need to do that except for engine braking scenarios in the piece of shit army truck that had air brakes.
This is just my personal experience, but for me I guess it comes down to how you "think" about how stick-shifting works. The flow between brain, foot, and hand coordination and how it works in your head. I could drive plenty of stick shift tractors and farm equipment just fine, but struggled a lot with driving a stick-shift car well until I got a motorcycle.

I had no clue how to drive a motorcycle before I bought it, and spent the next week learning a lot. After learning how to shift properly with a bike (and as you said, as downshifting and gear-grinding is almost guaranteed for people who ride). So it just made the concept of "clutch-shift-release-accelerate" a lot easier for me to process mentally after riding a motorcycle for a couple years.
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Bike transmissions are sequential, they don't work like a car transmission.

It does help to understand that your matching two spinning gears in speed via a clutch, but with a bike you need to clutch way less than a car. Good that it helps you, but theyre pretty different things.

I will occasionally fuck around and only use the clutch from a dead stop and do clutchless shifts, but 4 to 5 is tricky.
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Had a conversation about this today.

Who here could go out right now and drive a stick perfectly?
Who would be rusty but could do it?
Who could get the car moving?
Who thinks they could learn?
Who is hopeless?
If you've ever owned a car with a manual transmission this question is ridiculous. My cars have all been automatic for the last 10 years and it's made no difference any time I've gotten into a manual since. You feather the gas a little while you get used to the clutch and within 2-3 times you have it down. It's a skill any 8 year old could master.

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