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Unread 05-21-2009, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In the Terminator series Kyle is "from" the future but is the father of John Conner who sends him back in time to protect his mother / future. I will add in the various Terminators sent back but wanted to start with a simple drawing.

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So what then, does everything just repeat forever? Has this already happened and will continue to happen for the rest of time creating infinitely new universes?
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There is also the alternate universes theory that would basically make it so the John Connor in future "A" sent Kyle Reese back in time thus creating future "B" where Kyle Reese is his father. But I don't think Terminator uses alternate timelines because future "B" would result in John Connor knowing his dad was Kyle Reese and then feeling obligated to send him back in time, thus creating another closed loop.

Look at the entire time line like Dr Manhattan would, its all happening at once, it only happens once, it just appears to create a cycle because you are focusing on events in chronological order instead of as a piece of a larger picture.

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My main problem, as i have expressed in the sexbox, is how did John Connor INITIALLY come to existence in the first place (in Kyle Reese's time) if Kyle Reese originally wasn't born before John Connor/therefore wasn't sent back by John Connor, who shouldn't exist unless he is a DIFFERENT John Connor (aka another man mated with Sarah Connor to create an entirely different genetic John Connor.
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There is also the alternate universes theory that would basically make it so the John Connor in future "A" sent Kyle Reese back in time thus creating future "B" where Kyle Reese is his father.
This makes more sense to me. Unless somebody can explain it to me another way, this is actually the ONLY way that makes sense.
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Its a chicken/egg situation. This is my claim. See if you can disprove it with your logic, Nubblies..


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Sarah Connor fucks some random guy who we dont' know, has a baby, who she names John Connor and he survives the nuclear strike by the machines to lead the human resistance. The machines find out what a nuisance he is and somehow master time travel before they can master a way to kill all humans, and send a terminator back to kill John's mother, the only logical way apparently. John Connor realizes "oh fuck, then I won't exist", so he sends back Kyle Reese to protect his mother. Unwittingly, Kyle fucks/impregnates her therefore creating an ALTERNATE UNIVERSE in which the baby that Sarah has is DIFFERENT than the original (future) John Connor, who turns into all the actors we saw in T2/T3/TSalvation.
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So what then, does everything just repeat forever? Has this already happened and will continue to happen for the rest of time creating infinitely new universes?
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Jesus Christ. There is no fucking after life. There is no other planet/galaxy. If you want to live forever, Work your ass of in this life and thats about it. Period.



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Actually there are lots of other planets/galaxies. You have the 8 planets plus the five official dwarf planets (Ceres, Pluto, Eris, Makemake, and Haumea.) of our solar system. And 77 known extrasolar planets. As for how many galaxies are in the univirse. There's 3,000 visible galaxies and The Hubble Space Telescope site estimates there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. A German super-computer simulation estimates that the number may be as high as 500 billion.

Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

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Actually there are lots of other planets/galaxies. You have the 8 planets plus the five official dwarf planets (Ceres, Pluto, Eris, Makemake, and Haumea.) of our solar system. And 77 known extrasolar planets. As for how many galaxies are in the univirse. There's 3,000 visible galaxies and The Hubble Space Telescope site estimates there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the universe. A German super-computer simulation estimates that the number may be as high as 500 billion.
Ahhh, have you been there??? How is the golfing?? Land on those Galaxies and give me a call. Nasa can tell the world something and all the sudden, it's true. Please. Vaga, you are MUCH MUCH Smarter then that. Granite, this is coming from me so choose your battle.


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Well you can see the Andromeda Galaxy throughout November by the naked eye. As well as Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn.

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can we please get a shaw gif that we can call with the [granite][/granite] code?


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As long as you guys have been to these places, then I concede. If you can see such object via naked eye and a telescope, they mean shit to me. Well, unless they are in Terminator or Xmen, then that is a differerent story....


Jesus, the Segal thing was a joke for awhile but you guys make me glad I actually enjoy a real life actor. Now you guys are going to tell me that Jake Gylenhyall didn't do his own stunts in Day after Tomorrow. Rubbish.

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Is that code?? Let me in on your code please. I had a code when I met you. That code remains.

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