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Unread 08-20-2008, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's close, but I've gotta go with Bolt:
-the sport is more participated in, by a huge margin
-The lack of any particuarly helpful new technology, sprinters aren't breaking records every race like swimmers are
-Smashed 2 records, one of which was thought almost impossible
-Won in a little more dominating fashion
-The 100 and 200m are probably as or more different than any of the swimming events, you always see swimmers win different events, you almost never see somebody win the 100 and 200, and I don't think there has ever been a simultaneous record holder in them.

Yes Phelps is awesome and has won more medals, but only a swimmer could possibly win that many due to the number of events in swimming

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Alexander karelin could beat both there asses at the same time. Therefor he wins.

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A.) Fuck you for letting us know he broke the record before it aired.

B.) It's close. Damn close. But...I agree, Bolt takes it by a tit hair. What is glaring to me of your points is the consistency of the track & field records. It seemed like each swimming final ended in a broken record. It kind of got old. The track stuff, though...that's a horse of a different color. He dominates the 100 without trying and then bests an unbeatable.

Usain Bolt wins.

Plus he has a cooler name.
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Bolt.

Read about him. Scouting report from a year ago said he had potential, but parties too hard to ever be as good as he could be. Cleaned up his act and started training hard. Had to convince his coach just 13 months ago to let him try the 100, an event not normally fit for someone who is 6'5".
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Bolt, guys a freak.

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Phelps. He's American and white.

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I can't say I really care for phelp's sportsmanship

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Bumping this as they're both relevant again.

A couple of weeks ago, Phelps dominated shit and rebroke some records...all while telling the new swimsuit of the future to go fuck itself.

Very recently, Bolt rebroke the 100 and the 200 in very studly fashion.

Do all of the straight guys on the board still agree that Bolt is the man?

I do.
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Bolt but very close.
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When Bolt also can win the 400, I'll consider him in the same league as Phelps.
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I think Bolt is more of a natural athlete. Many people in the world have access to the training required to hone their inner sprinter, but no one likely in the history of the world has ever been as fast as Bolt.

Phelps, on the other hand, is the benefactor of growing up not-poor. It takes money to be able to train your kid in a pool from the age of six, money that most children of the world will never have access to. Start training young, inner city black kids how to swim really fast starting at the age of six and let's see how good Phelps really is then. The results could be similar to what happened to the game of football when blacks started playing for all we know.
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I'd give Bolt the nod over Phelps for how dominating he is. No one on the planet can touch him in these 2 races. Not even close. At all. The guy hardly looks like he's trying when he's beating ass.

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I think Bolt is more of a natural athlete. Many people in the world have access to the training required to hone their inner sprinter, but no one likely in the history of the world has ever been as fast as Bolt.

Phelps, on the other hand, is the benefactor of growing up not-poor. It takes money to be able to train your kid in a pool from the age of six, money that most children of the world will never have access to. Start training young, inner city black kids how to swim really fast starting at the age of six and let's see how good Phelps really is then. The results could be similar to what happened to the game of football when blacks started playing for all we know.
Also Phelps is physiologically the ideal swimmer, he has fairly short legs, large feet, and massive lungs or some such combination of traits that make him ideal for swimming.

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Also Phelps is physiologically the ideal swimmer, he has fairly short legs, large feet, and massive lungs or some such combination of traits that make him ideal for swimming.
Well if you were to build the ideal sprinter, I think long limbed, 6'2, insanely powerful muscles that are not bulky would be a pretty good start.
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Bolt is actually 6'5" for the record.

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They both are incredible. They are both built near flawlessly for their sport.

But lets review here.

Phelps won NINE gold medals in one Olympics. NINE. It wasn't just in freestyle swimming at the 50 and 100 Meter distance. He won several different races.

Bolt has only won sprinting. Sure, he dominates it more then Phelps. But I really think he needs to be able to win hurdles or the 400 to prove as versitle as Phelps.
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I'll concede that Bolt winning the 400 would further this argument for him, but I think hurdles is irrelevant. Hurdles includes 2 skills: running and jumping. All of Phelps' different strokes include one skill: swimming.

If there were a backwards sprint, a skipping competition, or even a crab walk, I'd argue that Bolt should be on top of it to compare to Phelps. Not hurdles, though.
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Also, Phelps isn't swimming anything of distance. They are all sprints. At the Olympic level, I know the 400 is considered a sprint, but anything more then that is distance. I still consider the 400 to be a bit of distance.

Bolt is also shattering world records and beating people by 4 or 5 links. Phelps only won 2 of those 9 gold medals because of an out touching.

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I give the nod to Phelps by a hair.

Bolt is impressive in the way he's absolutely shattering world records. But I also would like to see him win the 400 before I put him in the class with Phelps.

And whoever said "both are built flawlessly for their sport" isn't very bright. Bolt is freakishly tall and slender for a sprinter. The best sprinters in the world are traditionally 5'8-6'1. A far cry from his 6'5 frame.

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Here's a brief listing of Phelps world record shattering in the pool.

Remember that swimmers are desperate to shave TENTHS off their time.

200 M Butterfly (broke WR EIGHT times)

1:54.92 2001
1:54.58 2001
1:53.93 2003
1:53.80 2006
1:53.71 2007
1:52.09 2007
1:52.03 2007
1:51.51 2009

200 M Individual Medley (broke WR EIGHT times)

From 1:57.94 in 2002
To 1:54.23 in 2008

400 M Individual Medley (broke WR EIGHT times)

From 4:11.09 in 2002
To 4:03.84 in 2008
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How many a year/in a 4 year span does he get to break those?? Much more then track and field athletes.

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