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Beebs · 08-08-2010, 10:20 PM

Matt Hughes vs Ricardo Almeida Video - Fights MMA Video Details

f3lix · 08-08-2010, 11:13 PM

What was good about that? They danced for 3 minutes and I'm not even sure how the guy got hit, but it all looked boring to me.

vaga1220 * · 08-09-2010, 06:41 AM

F3lix seems like the sort of person who doesn't have many friends because people would rather not be around him anymore then they need to.

As for the fight. Hughes stand up looks awkward as shit, and he's been training it for a long fucking time. I don't know how he can still look so amateurish. Cool finish though, all the BJJ'ers on the boards have been like "wut?" It's called a Shults headlock and I've never seen it taught at a Jiu-jitsu gym.

EDIT: Wrestling is the shit and it's the best!!11111

thekremlin · 08-09-2010, 07:32 AM

I wrestled in HS and college and do JJ now, prefer JJ by a huge margin. Both as a competitor and as a fan. To be honest, if I don't know the people competing, I think wrestling is actually pretty boring to watch.

Cocktooth · 08-09-2010, 10:27 AM

Wrestling isn't as exciting as guys that just go in there and throw hands, but wrestling wins fights!

DJ FC · 08-09-2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaw

Wrestling isn't as exciting as guys that just go in there and throw hands, but wrestling wins fights!

So do guns.

Beebs · 08-09-2010, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaga1220

F3lix seems like the sort of person who doesn't have many friends because people would rather not be around him anymore then they need to.

As for the fight. Hughes stand up looks awkward as shit, and he's been training it for a long fucking time. I don't know how he can still look so amateurish. Cool finish though, all the BJJ'ers on the boards have been like "wut?" It's called a Shults headlock and I've never seen it taught at a Jiu-jitsu gym.

EDIT: Wrestling is the shit and it's the best!!11111

Fadzaev choking a guy out in a world championship with the exact move Hughes used. About 25 seconds in

YouTube

Beebs · 08-09-2010, 01:59 PM

As for the Wrestling vs BJJ issue, it's really very small differences with guys like Hughes and say Arona; one started with wrestling, one with BJJ, but look similar on the mat. Hell, Hughes beat Almeida at ADCC in 2000, and his favorite training partner is Jeremy Horn, pioneer of the more Americanized style of BJJ in MMA (if that makes sense).

Hughes is a bit like the American Sakuraba though, taking down the Renzo gang with moves more based in wrestling.

I don't think there is any real dislike or disrespect either personally or regarding training style between Hughes and Renzo and company.

Beebs · 08-09-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix

What was good about that? They danced for 3 minutes and I'm not even sure how the guy got hit, but it all looked boring to me.

Mostly the novelty of it, that was just one of about 5 punches Hughes has ever landed flush on the feet, the guys striking for a dominant champion is just confusingly bad.

Also you just don't see that choke very often, if ever, so again, the novelty. The "holy shit, did he just do that to a top tier BJJ guy?" factor.

Then there is the backstory; Hughes is the great champ at the end of his career, got embarassed by GSP and Alves, but still good enough to school lesser fighters; beat the hell out of Royce Gracie (Renzo's cousin), marginally beat Matt Serra (Renzo Gracie's top student), beat the hell out of Renzo, then not only beat but choked out Almeida (Renzo's other top student).

Like anything, it's much more interesting if you are invested in terms of emotion or money.

f3lix · 08-10-2010, 02:24 AM

Ty Beebs. That helped. Didn't know the rarity of that choke.

thekremlin · 08-10-2010, 04:58 AM

No one in england wrestled in high school, I love it, really looking forward to scoring some takedowns at my first british JJ tourney.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 08-11-2010, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebs

Fadzaev choking a guy out in a world championship with the exact move Hughes used. About 25 seconds in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21PxT_TZqo

I could watch those two guys go at it all day long.

Mr. Blonde · 08-15-2010, 11:58 AM

Didn't know where else to put this. Pretty cool:

YouTube

Beebs · 08-15-2010, 03:13 PM

Benny is legit.

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vaga1220 * *Dislikes ham Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: HELL 666 Posts: 1,515 Internets: 60790	F3lix seems like the sort of person who doesn't have many friends because people would rather not be around him anymore then they need to. As for the fight. Hughes stand up looks awkward as shit, and he's been training it for a long fucking time. I don't know how he can still look so amateurish. Cool finish though, all the BJJ'ers on the boards have been like "wut?" It's called a Shults headlock and I've never seen it taught at a Jiu-jitsu gym. EDIT: Wrestling is the shit and it's the best!!11111
	Putting the sensual in non-consensual.

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Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	Wrestling isn't as exciting as guys that just go in there and throw hands, but wrestling wins fights!
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08-08-2010, 11:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	What was good about that? They danced for 3 minutes and I'm not even sure how the guy got hit, but it all looked boring to me.

08-09-2010, 07:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	I wrestled in HS and college and do JJ now, prefer JJ by a huge margin. Both as a competitor and as a fan. To be honest, if I don't know the people competing, I think wrestling is actually pretty boring to watch.

08-09-2010, 01:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	As for the Wrestling vs BJJ issue, it's really very small differences with guys like Hughes and say Arona; one started with wrestling, one with BJJ, but look similar on the mat. Hell, Hughes beat Almeida at ADCC in 2000, and his favorite training partner is Jeremy Horn, pioneer of the more Americanized style of BJJ in MMA (if that makes sense). Hughes is a bit like the American Sakuraba though, taking down the Renzo gang with moves more based in wrestling. I don't think there is any real dislike or disrespect either personally or regarding training style between Hughes and Renzo and company.

08-10-2010, 02:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Ty Beebs. That helped. Didn't know the rarity of that choke.

08-10-2010, 04:58 AM	#11 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	No one in england wrestled in high school, I love it, really looking forward to scoring some takedowns at my first british JJ tourney.

08-15-2010, 03:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Benny is legit.