Who is going to hell? An argument for the Bible, Religion and God. - Page 18 - Nubblies.net Forums

Mr. Blonde · 03-13-2006, 11:05 PM

On a sidenote, did anyone else hear that the Catholic Church is abolishing the concept of "Limbo"? I saw it on the Daily Show...they said something like how they were doing it to look more appealing to the public on babies that were not baptised and how they go to hell or limbo or something (i'm not catholic...well technically i am but wasnt raised it) and said "..Rather than the church giving it's blessing to such things as birth control, it would rather REARRANGE THE ENTIRE NETHERWORLD"

ninjaface · 03-17-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

The Naked Truth

With Jordan Maxwell, Bill Jenkins, and Derek Partridge

Discover the astrological and mythical symbols from ancient Egypt and earlier civilizations, which bear striking similarities to Judaic, Christian and Islamic teachings, and learn how orthodox religious institutions have suppressed these truths to consolidate their power over the masses!

In this riveting presentation, you will discover ...

* Uncanny similarities like those between the Virgin births of Krishna, Mithra, Osiris/Horus and Jesus.

* Underlying astrological symbolism such as the two fishes of Christianity, representing the Age of Pisces.

* How sun worship of the pagans was transformed into "Son" worship of today's Christians.

* The history of the suppression of thought that has led to "holy wars," the Inquisition and other reprehensible acts by the so-called righteous!

Now you can learn how many religions (or cults) have borrowed from one another for short term gain, control, power, and the eventual enslavement of the populace! Learn how this has been done systematically; not for decades, not for centuries, but for thousands of years!!!

This

video

is not riveting, but it does show religion for what truly is. Watch it all. I'm interested to see people's responses.

Edit: The video is 1 hour and 50 minutes long.

Reposted

And another thing.. This is not one of those videos made by a paranoid conspiracy dude in his mom's basement. This video was originally on vhs. The production value isn't amazing, but it gets the point across.

Ugly Bastard · 03-30-2006, 12:42 PM

A pretty interesting article on what it feels like to be an athiest may be found here.

blackbirdsjoy · 04-07-2006, 11:43 AM

pretty bitter and angry

ninjaface · 04-07-2006, 02:31 PM

I can understand how he feels, but he had it way worse than I ever did. I attended Sacred Heart, a private catholic grade school, for 6 years. Kindergarten to 5th grade wearing my navy blue dockers and my yellow button-up shirt. Church every Friday and Sunday, and Sunday School. I remember believing in god, praying, going to confession and all that rhetoric and routine. In fact, I was even an altar boy for a time.

My time at the school was less than ideal. I was the "bad" kid. If something was missing, broken or whatever else, I was the immediate suspect. I had detentions all the time. By the end of 5th grade, I asked my parents if I could go to public school for my 6th grade year. To my surprise, they said yes without putting up an ounce of resistance. You know it had to be bad if a 5th grader wanted to leave all his friends to go to a different school where he didn't know anyone. And funny thing was, my grades improved after I switched schools and I didn't get in trouble nearly as much. Had my parents forced me to continue to attend Sacred Heart I'm sure I would have been bitter toward them.

There was not a single moment where I had some sort of breakthrough and thought "Religion is a sham!" It was a gradual progression. I really started hating going to church around 4th or 5th grade. It was boring and extremely repetitive. I remember thinking
"Why do we have to come here once a week and spend an hour standing, sitting, kneeling, sitting, standing, shaking hands with people around us, sitting, kneeling, kneeling, eating a crouton, kneeling, sitting, standing....?"
Around 7th grade, my dad stopped going to church with us. It didn't take long for me and my brother to follow suit. I remember feeling such joy on Sunday mornings when church was no longer a possiblity. There were times when my grandma (who is decently religious) would visit and my mom would try and force me and my brother to go to church. We held our ground and didn't go. From there, I drifted further and further out of the haze of religion and began to really think critically about it. And here I am today. I feel that considering belief in any religion is a complete waste of time and thought energy.

I used to be pretty bitter and angry, but I've calmed down considerably since then. Sometimes I find religious propaganda on my car or laying around at work. I pick it up, read it, laugh, and throw it away.

jbonham · 05-01-2006, 07:59 PM

I remember sacred heart, i think we played them in soccer or something, i went to jefferson

Heaven Can Wait · 09-29-2006, 05:14 PM

Strongly advise downloading 'The Root of Evil'
documentary on religion, by Richard Dawkins himself.

Ugly Bastard · 09-29-2006, 05:37 PM

I just searched Google video to find that you can watch it on there. I plan on doing so when I'm in the mood (probably later tonight).

AcTivE · 10-01-2006, 04:55 AM

I had a discussion with Satan yesterday. I met him at Subway.

ninjaface · 10-04-2006, 10:52 PM

10 Reasons Why Beer is Better than God

1. No one will kill you for not drinking Beer.
2. Beer doesn't tell you how to have sex.
3. Beer has never caused a major war.
4. They don't force Beer on minors who can't think for themselves.
5. When you have a Beer, you don't knock on people's doors trying to give it away.
6. Nobody's ever been burned at the stake, hanged, or tortured over his brand of Beer.
7. You don't have to wait 2000+ years for a second Beer.
8. There are laws saying Beer labels can't lie to you.
9. You can prove you have a Beer.
10. If you've devoted your life to Beer, there are groups to help you stop.

Heaven Can Wait · 12-07-2006, 06:45 PM

http://www.filecabi.net/video/atheist-delusion.html

Anyone else get pissed off listening to this shit?

Heaven Can Wait · 12-07-2006, 06:49 PM

That post was made about 12 seconds in, I still don't like his arrogance though, there's a difference between mocking a religion and proving it wrong.

Beebs · 12-07-2006, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heaven Can Wait

That post was made about 12 seconds in, I still don't like his arrogance though, there's a difference between mocking a religion and proving it wrong.

Fuck that, you don't deal with people who have basically argued with me like this, word for fucking word.

Heaven Can Wait · 12-07-2006, 07:42 PM

I do, pink can vouch for me on that, the latest one being 'The bible is correct because men have one less rib than women' once shown otherwise christians can always pull out some shit to correct it, religion is evolving so wont be proven wrong anytime soon.
But mocking how they defend their religion doesn't help at all, best you can do is force them to read a few books and direct them to this site (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html) when they come out with the theory shit.

Beebs · 12-07-2006, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heaven Can Wait

best you can do is force them to read a few books and direct them to this site (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html) when they come out with the theory shit.

Unfortunately I don't drive a bookmobile, along with the fact that you can't force people to read anything, let alone think about, and most are too stupid to do so anyway.

Heaven Can Wait · 12-18-2006, 06:58 PM

YouTube

AcTivE · 12-24-2006, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heaven Can Wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9HtY...elated&search=

I've listened to a bunch of his stuff. He seems to babble a lot.

Heaven Can Wait · 12-24-2006, 01:55 PM

He has a hard time trying to communicate with religious folk.

AcTivE · 12-24-2006, 02:38 PM

ha I guess so.

Heaven Can Wait · 01-12-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

On a sidenote, did anyone else hear that the Catholic Church is abolishing the concept of "Limbo"

Old testament doesnt mention hell at all, uses limbo a few times though.

The Blasphemy Challenge

Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever. This is a one-way road you're taking here.

http://www.blasphemychallenge.com

f3lix · 01-13-2007, 12:18 PM

So do people become religious to go to heaven, or to avoid going to hell? (Ignore the possibilities that neither exist)

Heaven Can Wait · 01-21-2007, 08:53 PM

Dunno.
Both?

ninjaface · 01-21-2007, 10:37 PM

Regardless, I dont approve of trying to attract people to a religion with fear. It's disgusting.

Dent · 01-17-2009, 04:09 PM

Top 10 Signs Of Evolution In Modern Man - The List Universe

Mr. Blonde · 01-17-2009, 04:33 PM

people who cuss are going to hell.

http://nocussing.com

03-13-2006, 11:05 PM	#426 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	On a sidenote, did anyone else hear that the Catholic Church is abolishing the concept of "Limbo"? I saw it on the Daily Show...they said something like how they were doing it to look more appealing to the public on babies that were not baptised and how they go to hell or limbo or something (i'm not catholic...well technically i am but wasnt raised it) and said "..Rather than the church giving it's blessing to such things as birth control, it would rather REARRANGE THE ENTIRE NETHERWORLD"
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

04-07-2006, 11:43 AM	#429 (permalink)
blackbirdsjoy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Piss Hole Posts: 185 Internets: 10	pretty bitter and angry
	Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah-nagl fhtagn.

09-29-2006, 05:14 PM	#432 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	Strongly advise downloading 'The Root of Evil' documentary on religion, by Richard Dawkins himself.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

10-01-2006, 04:55 AM	#434 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	I had a discussion with Satan yesterday. I met him at Subway.
	___________________ 3:o) horned creatures...wat wat ___________________

12-07-2006, 06:45 PM	#436 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	http://www.filecabi.net/video/atheist-delusion.html Anyone else get pissed off listening to this shit?
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

03-30-2006, 12:42 PM	#428 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	A pretty interesting article on what it feels like to be an athiest may be found here.

04-07-2006, 02:31 PM	#430 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	I can understand how he feels, but he had it way worse than I ever did. I attended Sacred Heart, a private catholic grade school, for 6 years. Kindergarten to 5th grade wearing my navy blue dockers and my yellow button-up shirt. Church every Friday and Sunday, and Sunday School. I remember believing in god, praying, going to confession and all that rhetoric and routine. In fact, I was even an altar boy for a time. My time at the school was less than ideal. I was the "bad" kid. If something was missing, broken or whatever else, I was the immediate suspect. I had detentions all the time. By the end of 5th grade, I asked my parents if I could go to public school for my 6th grade year. To my surprise, they said yes without putting up an ounce of resistance. You know it had to be bad if a 5th grader wanted to leave all his friends to go to a different school where he didn't know anyone. And funny thing was, my grades improved after I switched schools and I didn't get in trouble nearly as much. Had my parents forced me to continue to attend Sacred Heart I'm sure I would have been bitter toward them. There was not a single moment where I had some sort of breakthrough and thought "Religion is a sham!" It was a gradual progression. I really started hating going to church around 4th or 5th grade. It was boring and extremely repetitive. I remember thinking "Why do we have to come here once a week and spend an hour standing, sitting, kneeling, sitting, standing, shaking hands with people around us, sitting, kneeling, kneeling, eating a crouton, kneeling, sitting, standing....?" Around 7th grade, my dad stopped going to church with us. It didn't take long for me and my brother to follow suit. I remember feeling such joy on Sunday mornings when church was no longer a possiblity. There were times when my grandma (who is decently religious) would visit and my mom would try and force me and my brother to go to church. We held our ground and didn't go. From there, I drifted further and further out of the haze of religion and began to really think critically about it. And here I am today. I feel that considering belief in any religion is a complete waste of time and thought energy. I used to be pretty bitter and angry, but I've calmed down considerably since then. Sometimes I find religious propaganda on my car or laying around at work. I pick it up, read it, laugh, and throw it away.

05-01-2006, 07:59 PM	#431 (permalink)
jbonham Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 114 Internets: 10	I remember sacred heart, i think we played them in soccer or something, i went to jefferson

09-29-2006, 05:37 PM	#433 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I just searched Google video to find that you can watch it on there. I plan on doing so when I'm in the mood (probably later tonight).

10-04-2006, 10:52 PM	#435 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	10 Reasons Why Beer is Better than God 1. No one will kill you for not drinking Beer. 2. Beer doesn't tell you how to have sex. 3. Beer has never caused a major war. 4. They don't force Beer on minors who can't think for themselves. 5. When you have a Beer, you don't knock on people's doors trying to give it away. 6. Nobody's ever been burned at the stake, hanged, or tortured over his brand of Beer. 7. You don't have to wait 2000+ years for a second Beer. 8. There are laws saying Beer labels can't lie to you. 9. You can prove you have a Beer. 10. If you've devoted your life to Beer, there are groups to help you stop.

12-07-2006, 06:49 PM	#437 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	That post was made about 12 seconds in, I still don't like his arrogance though, there's a difference between mocking a religion and proving it wrong.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

12-07-2006, 07:42 PM	#439 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	I do, pink can vouch for me on that, the latest one being 'The bible is correct because men have one less rib than women' once shown otherwise christians can always pull out some shit to correct it, religion is evolving so wont be proven wrong anytime soon. But mocking how they defend their religion doesn't help at all, best you can do is force them to read a few books and direct them to this site (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html) when they come out with the theory shit.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

12-24-2006, 01:55 PM	#443 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	He has a hard time trying to communicate with religious folk.
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

12-24-2006, 02:38 PM	#444 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	ha I guess so.
	___________________ 3:o) horned creatures...wat wat ___________________

01-13-2007, 12:18 PM	#446 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	So do people become religious to go to heaven, or to avoid going to hell? (Ignore the possibilities that neither exist)

01-21-2007, 08:53 PM	#447 (permalink)
Heaven Can Wait English. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 868 Internets: 179	Dunno. Both?
	there is little I wouldn't do for a dolphin.

01-21-2007, 10:37 PM	#448 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	Regardless, I dont approve of trying to attract people to a religion with fear. It's disgusting.

01-17-2009, 04:09 PM	#449 (permalink)
Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,528 Internets: 183146	Top 10 Signs Of Evolution In Modern Man - The List Universe

01-17-2009, 04:33 PM	#450 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	people who cuss are going to hell. http://nocussing.com
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna