Pirates!!

[SittinOnDubsWGW]

^^^^
awesomeness.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

the attachment feature is nice though because it doesn't compress the pictures.

[DDTempest]

But some pictures can't be seen in their full glory!

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

not sure what you're talking about. you can either put tags around it's address and paste it directly into your post and it will be full size... or If you click the thumbnail it will expand, click it again it will open in a new window where you can view it full size. It appears most people are too stupid to figure that out though so I guess its not ergonomically sound.

[DDTempest]

Live Piracy Map

Here is a link to a google map with all the reported acts of piracy marked. I am seeing a lot of areas that show opportunity for growth!

[Ironic Mustache]

No one fucks with the US of A!

Or Australia.

[DDTempest]

I guess when I was first reading about these pirates that I had not really considered where Somalia was... its right there on the way to the Suez canal. It's a long fucking way around Africa to avoid pirate waters if you are taking a boat full of shit from Asia to Europe.

[Ugly Bastard]

Fascinating update on this... Five Somali pirates drown as they squabble over their $3million ransom | Mail Online

[SittinOnDubsWGW]

I actually didn't know that situation had not been resolved yet. Kinda funny how it ended though.

[Ugly Bastard]

Pirates hijack ship with 20 Americans onboard | Reuters

I just don't get this stuff. Like there has to be come kind of fairly simple way to stop these guys.

[Mr. Blonde]

Seriously. as much of a fan I am of nowadays pirates, how the fuck does this happen? NOBODY sees another ship/boat coming? Ships AREN'T ALLOWED defend themselves? hey, heres an idea: see them coming, close and lock all the doors to the deck, go onto an upper level with some weapons and threaten/shoot them until they get off. It seems so simple.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

The money issues aside, I still think its pretty cool that the world is still big enough that things like this can happen, they also treat the prisoners pretty well.

[DDTempest]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde

Seriously. as much of a fan I am of nowadays pirates, how the fuck does this happen? NOBODY sees another ship/boat coming? Ships AREN'T ALLOWED defend themselves? hey, heres an idea: see them coming, close and lock all the doors to the deck, go onto an upper level with some weapons and threaten/shoot them until they get off. It seems so simple.

Most of these boats are insured for hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. Violently defending your vessel from pirate attacks generally negates said insurance. This is a nice case of modern capitalism getting in the way of some modern swashbuckling action.

[angry pancake]

Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Pirates hijack ship with 20 Americans onboard | Reuters

I just don't get this stuff. Like there has to be come kind of fairly simple way to stop these guys.

A simple blockade would fix this shit easily.

[angry pancake]

Originally Posted by DDTempest

Most of these boats are insured for hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. Violently defending your vessel from pirate attacks generally negates said insurance. This is a nice case of modern capitalism getting in the way of some modern swashbuckling action.

I guess the insurance company is paying the 3+ million in ransom?

[Orgazmo]

Blonde asked that I share this link with you gentlemen.

American crew retakes hijacked ship, Pentagon says - CNN.com

[angry pancake]

Kinda of a dull take back now that the details are out. Particular laugh to this quote: "There are starving people in Africa who need this food," Reinhart said. These are the same starving fucks who would gladly kill his ass or hijack his boat.

[Orgazmo]

Adding to this, The Glyde just told me that Nubblies' very own Me Gustan Nalgas is on a ship being sent to help out with this situation.

[Mr. Blonde]

wtf?



I like how there has been no new photo taken of the captain who is being held captive in apparently 30 years. That picture is something you see on CNN about a cold case or some shit.

[DDTempest]

Originally Posted by angry pancake

I guess the insurance company is paying the 3+ million in ransom?

Generally yes because the ransom is surely less than the replacement cost of the boat, which the insurance company would be responsible for if it is stolen.

[Ugly Bastard]

Me Gustan's IRL name rhymes with...?

[Pliedes]

Rhymes with Fishart.

Wid is on the USS Bainbridge. He's been out at sea for quite a while now....hopefully he's putting that Naval Academy education to good use.

[angry pancake]

Originally Posted by DDTempest

Generally yes because the ransom is surely less than the replacement cost of the boat, which the insurance company would be responsible for if it is stolen.

For some reason the insurance issue seemed puzzling. At first I would think that there would be an exclusion rider for those going near Somalia or Morrocco. It would also seem as though there would be a gigantic self-insure deductible such as those for buildings, planes, etc. Meaning there is no insurance unless the claim is over a certain amount. But nooooooo, not according this article. Commercial maritime insurance depends on the number of pirates. Too many pirate make a riot.

Source: Piracy insurance hinges on number of raiders - Times Online

Piracy insurance hinges on number of raiders
Ian King, Deputy Business Editor

The surge in piracy off the coast of Somalia could trigger legal disputes between marine and war risk insurers, a leading QC has warned.

Jonathan Gilman, QC, said that piracy could be covered by either type of policy - depending on the number of pirates involved. If 12 or more pirates are involved in an attack, according to Mr Gilman, the incident is likely be classified under the Public Order Act 1986 as a riot. These are covered by war risk insurers rather than by marine insurers. However, if the attack involves fewer than a dozen pirates, the incident would typically be covered by marine insurance.

Mr Gilman - editor of Arnould's Law of Marine Insurance, published by Sweet & Maxwell - said that because it was often very difficult to verify accurately the number of pirates involved in an attack, it could lead to legal conflicts. He said: “Piracy is normally covered by marine insurers, the exception being where the incident is legally a riot. There have been House of Lords decisions where it was held the word ‘riot' in insurance policies is to be given its strict criminal law meaning, so that the critical question is likely to be whether the number of pirates is 12 or more. It may be very difficult to assess accurately the exact number of pirates involved in any particular incident, which may result in disputes between marine and war risk insurers.

“Some new clauses were introduced in 2005 to transfer the risks of loss by piracy, violent theft or barratry from the marine to the war risk cover, but so far these have not been widely adopted. That may change as a result of the incidents in Somalia.”
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The legal definition of a riot, under the 1986 Act, is that 12 or more people use or threaten violence for a common purpose.

Mr Gilman said that, in most of the incidents in the Gulf of Aden, the pirates were not captured. He said this made verifying the exact number of attackers potentially very difficult. He added: “The testimony of a scared crew may be quite unreliable and conflicting statements more than likely. The Gulf of Aden has already been treated as an area of enhanced risk under war risk policies for some time. In current circumstances the additional premium rates charge by war risk insurers may well escalate considerably. War risk insurers can cancel and reissue policies at very short notice at a considerable increase if they think the risk of claims is much more likely.”

Mr Gilman said that it was difficult to predict what effect these incidents would have on rates for marine cover because there were many other factors affecting premiums at present.

[Mr. Blonde]

BADASS AS FUCK UPDATE!!!!

The American captain of a cargo ship held hostage by pirates jumped overboard from the lifeboat where he was being held, and U.S. Navy SEALs shot and killed three of his four captors, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the situation.

Capt. Richard Phillips was helped out of the water off the Somali coast and is uninjured and in good condition, the official said. He was taken aboard the USS Bainbridge, a nearby naval warship.

At the time of the shootings, the fourth pirate was aboard the Bainbridge negotiating with officials, the source said. That pirate was taken into custody.

Maersk Line Limited, owner of the cargo ship that Phillips captained, issued a statement saying it was informed at 1:30 p.m. by the U.S. government that he had been rescued. John Reinhart, president and CEO, called Phillips' wife, Andrea, to tell her the good news.

Crew members from the ship, the Maersk Alabama, were "jubilant" when they received word, the statement says.

"We are all absolutely thrilled to learn that Richard is safe and will be re-united with his family," Reinhart said. "Maersk Line Limited is deeply grateful to the Navy, the FBI and so many others for their tireless efforts to secure Richard's freedom."

"We look forward to welcoming him home in the coming days," Reinhart added.

Earlier Sunday, Maersk said the U.S. Navy had informed the company that it had sighted Phillips in the lifeboat where the pirates were holding him.

A man who answered the door at Phillips' home in Underhill, Vermont, on Sunday afternoon told CNN's Stephanie Elam that the family had known the news for hours. He said details would have to come from Virginia, apparently referring to Maersk's home base in Norfolk.

On Saturday, the FBI launched a criminal investigation into the hijacking of the U.S.-flagged cargo ship by Somali pirates, two law enforcement officials told CNN. The probe will be led by the FBI's New York field office, which is responsible for looking into cases involving U.S. citizens in the African region, the officials said.

Snippets of information started to emerge Saturday about how the Maersk Alabama's crew managed to retake the ship after it was hijacked by pirates Wednesday about 350 miles off the coast of Somalia in the Indian Ocean.

The Alabama reached port in Mombasa, Kenya,on Saturday. Crew members aboard the freed cargo ship described how some of their colleagues attempted to "jump" their pirate captors.

A scuffle ensued and one of the sailors stabbed a pirate in the hand in the battle to retake the container ship, one of the sailors told CNN.

Crew members smiled broadly as they stood on the ship's deck under the watchful eyes of security teams. Although the crew was kept away from the media, CNN's Stan Grant got close enough to ask crew members what happened after the pirates climbed aboard the ship.

One crew member said he recalled being awakened around 7 a.m. as the hijacking began. View a timeline of the attack and its aftermath »

"I was scared," Grant quoted the man as saying.

Some of the crew managed to hide in a secure part of the Alabama as the pirates stormed the ship, the sailor said.

As the sailors described their clash with the pirates, a crew member pointed to one shipmate and said, "This guy is a hero. He and the chief engineer, they took down the pirate. ... He led him down there to the engine room and then they jumped him."

The shipmate added that he stabbed the pirate's hand and tied him up.

"Capt. Phillips is a hero," another crew member shouted from the deck of the freed ship.
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An earlier attempt by Phillips to escape from the 28-foot covered lifeboat was thwarted by a pirate, who dove into the Indian Ocean after him. Phillips' captors appear to have tied him up afterward, Pentagon officials said.

Maersk CEO Reinhart told reporters Saturday that the crew will stay on board in Mombasa while the FBI conducts an investigation.

source.

[Dent]

That's amazing, was he tied up when he jumped off? I've been following the story, glad he's alive.