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the Butcher · 12-05-2004, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tonguegina:
I've also heard that the wise men didn't come the night he was born, but a few years later. I haven't gone to church in a while, but am I correct in remembering this?

You are most definitely correct. Another interesting thing to think about: in the Bible, it tells of Jesus's birth and his life. However, it skips the first...what, 13-14 years of his life? If he truly was the son of God, the Messiah, the fucking main aspect of Christianity, then why skip those years? Wouldn't it be kind of important to document his entire life? What the fuck? Personally, I think that the entire story of Jesus's birth is made up. I'm not denying his existence, just the story which is told in the Bible. After all, man did write that book of fairy tales, so who's to say that certain parts aren't just fabrications?

tonguegina · 12-05-2004, 05:05 AM

You'd think there would be some good lessons in those first 13-14 years, too. I mean, puberty hits. I'm sure he'd be tempted by some ladies, maybe it could address masturbation (as some of us know that it doesn't, besides Onan which I still believe covers a different subject). I mean, if he didn't sin then he probably didn't have sex since he was never married (that seems to be a hot button to Christians). You know, did he flog the dolphin or did he just need to do the laundry every couple of weeks...if you know what I mean.

12-05-2004, 05:09 AM

I dont think you read my argument clearly, or perhaps I didn't write it clearly enough. My point is this: Practically you can't change politics by expressing your disapproval. The same is with the weather.

Now I'll try to make this as clear as possible.

When discussing the month of December, it is natural for me to discuss it from my own point of view. This is the basis of all human communication, this is why conversations are valuable, because people all bring a different perspective to an argument of a conversation.

For me, December brings with it some very negative aspects, which cannot be ignored. Even with the holidays (which would be spent in the fridged cold of Middlebury, Indiana) as a positive, I'd rather take some other month (say September) along with all the other aspects of that month.

At first the thread praised the wonders of the month, specifically Christmas and other holidays. This was then paired with the advantage of getting 3 weeks of break from school (which I listed as a possible negative aspect). I fail to see how this thread is specifically on the pros/cons of religious holidays. Rather, the subject in question appears to be December as a whole, I believe this is a fair assumption.

Now, to discuss the weather issue. Yes, there may be some places that have a meditteranian climate, (not interesting, but nevertheless a very important aspect of those places) and for these places, December may not be very eventful. For the rest of the Northern Hemisphere (the vast majority of the global population), however, December brings about colder weather which may be perceived as of lesser quality than the rest of the year.

So one could say that December brings about more unfavorible weather globally than favorable weather. Perhaps there is an argument for the other side, but this does not mean that the point is not fit for argument.

By all fucking means argue the point

Now, as a fairly normal person in a conversation, I am most inclined to stress my own point of view. For me, December brings about poor weather and/or a chance to escape the poor weather with higher costs (which I am not willing to incur).

Now is there any way possible that the cold weather should not be a factor when discussing one's like/dislike of the month of December? I hardly see it possible.

Perhaps you believe that the bad weather does not outweigh the benifits of the Holiday season, then by God argue that point, but please do not suggest that the weather is a taboo subject.

I wouldn't suggest that you not use the holiday season as a reason for liking december simply because some places dont celebrate major holidays around this time (and I'm sure there are a few).

Edit: I just read this post, and it's still not clear, so I basically want to say that I feel that the weather is just as important as Holidays, and a thread about "December" should be allowed to incorporate both aspects into a conversation.

[ December 05, 2004, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: DJ FC ]

tonguegina · 12-05-2004, 05:26 AM

I still think that you can change politics by stating your opinion, writting your congressman, getting involved. See, this is what I like about this time of year. Are you reading how optimistic I've been? This is not me. This is the only month of the year that I'm like this. My spirits are lifted and I'm in a better mood. I don't know why. Is my status different? No. Am I treated differently by others? No. But for some reason, at this time every year, I'm a happier person.

In all reality, there's a point to the north where a change in weather is harder to notice as well. It snows all year round and aside from the amount of sunlight, it's practically the same as well. Anyway, I'm going to go back and restate what I originally said. You are complaining about Indiana, not December. I still don't feel that it should have bearing. You do. That's fine. Let's just agree to disagree, because we're saying the same fucking things over and over and over again and I've become bored with it.

And by the way, I still don't understand how you think a 3 week break from school is a negative aspect. Will you get 3 week vacations from work after you graduate? I've become all about taking advantage of moments and situations and this is a time to enjoy your life and consider yourself lucky. You won't have many more opportunities like these.

12-05-2004, 07:12 AM

I don't like the break because being home isn't as fun as being at school.

George Sherman · 12-05-2004, 03:28 PM

I fucking hate December, I hate the holiday season...it sucks.

tonguegina · 12-05-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DJ FC:
I don't like the break because being home isn't as fun as being at school.

I'll buy that.

THEINCREDIBLEdork · 12-05-2004, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tonguegina:

Did I ever say that you couldn't bitch about the weather? That doesn't sound like something I would do considering I bitch about it in Jan/Feb when the wind is blowing in my face at 20mph when it's 15 degrees outside. My argument is that it shouldn't have any bearing on the conversation we were having as to the joys of the fucking holiday season because it is a variable that changes depending on location.

This thread has blown up, so my nature is to say a word or two. Tongue get it through your thick skull. The conversation is not about the holiday season it is about the month of december. The holiday season is just one variable among many that define December. Others are the position of the sun relative to the Earth, the position of time from other events, spiritual crap from lots of religions, AND WEATHER. In December the weather changes, therefore it is a valid arguement to say you hate december because of weather change. Sure, you can take out a fucking loan (this is the most fucking retarded idea i've ever heard in my life) if youre poor and move somewhere else, because where you live gets cold in December. If this is what someone did to avoid the weather that lies in December this would probably make them hate December even more, because december's whether made you take a 3rd mortgage on youre house. You say climate change has nothing to do with december because you can just move where its warm, well the same can be said if you don't like the holiday season. You can move out of the country to some shithole that has no holidays in December.

Quote:

Originally posted by tonguegina:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ FC:
I don't like the break because being home isn't as fun as being at school.

I'll buy that.[/quote]HELLLOOOOO!!!!! this just proves that you are full of bullshit and you have no idea what you are talking about. According to your logic he can just stay in bloomington instead of going home. OOPS looks like you missed that one.

wheeewwwww.... that felt better, it was just growing inside me as i was reading this thread. I just can't stand blatant ignorance. But I'm sure you will just continue riding your dying horse off into the sunset... well go for it.

tonguegina · 12-05-2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THEINCREDIBLEdork:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tonguegina:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DJ FC:
I don't like the break because being home isn't as fun as being at school.

I'll buy that.[/quote]HELLLOOOOO!!!!! this just proves that you are full of bullshit and you have no idea what you are talking about. According to your logic he can just stay in bloomington instead of going home. OOPS looks like you missed that one.[/quote]Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that what goes with that is the fact that no one else will be in Bloomington. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed that, but when I hear his arguement I assume that he wants to be around the people in Bloomington and not the people from his hometown. Otherwise I probably would have argued that.

[ December 05, 2004, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: tonguegina ]

12-05-2004, 11:12 PM

Tong is right

12-05-2004, 05:09 AM	#53 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	I dont think you read my argument clearly, or perhaps I didn't write it clearly enough. My point is this: Practically you can't change politics by expressing your disapproval. The same is with the weather. Now I'll try to make this as clear as possible. When discussing the month of December, it is natural for me to discuss it from my own point of view. This is the basis of all human communication, this is why conversations are valuable, because people all bring a different perspective to an argument of a conversation. For me, December brings with it some very negative aspects, which cannot be ignored. Even with the holidays (which would be spent in the fridged cold of Middlebury, Indiana) as a positive, I'd rather take some other month (say September) along with all the other aspects of that month. At first the thread praised the wonders of the month, specifically Christmas and other holidays. This was then paired with the advantage of getting 3 weeks of break from school (which I listed as a possible negative aspect). I fail to see how this thread is specifically on the pros/cons of religious holidays. Rather, the subject in question appears to be December as a whole, I believe this is a fair assumption. Now, to discuss the weather issue. Yes, there may be some places that have a meditteranian climate, (not interesting, but nevertheless a very important aspect of those places) and for these places, December may not be very eventful. For the rest of the Northern Hemisphere (the vast majority of the global population), however, December brings about colder weather which may be perceived as of lesser quality than the rest of the year. So one could say that December brings about more unfavorible weather globally than favorable weather. Perhaps there is an argument for the other side, but this does not mean that the point is not fit for argument. By all fucking means argue the point Now, as a fairly normal person in a conversation, I am most inclined to stress my own point of view. For me, December brings about poor weather and/or a chance to escape the poor weather with higher costs (which I am not willing to incur). Now is there any way possible that the cold weather should not be a factor when discussing one's like/dislike of the month of December? I hardly see it possible. Perhaps you believe that the bad weather does not outweigh the benifits of the Holiday season, then by God argue that point, but please do not suggest that the weather is a taboo subject. I wouldn't suggest that you not use the holiday season as a reason for liking december simply because some places dont celebrate major holidays around this time (and I'm sure there are a few). Edit: I just read this post, and it's still not clear, so I basically want to say that I feel that the weather is just as important as Holidays, and a thread about "December" should be allowed to incorporate both aspects into a conversation. [ December 05, 2004, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: DJ FC ]
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a

12-05-2004, 07:12 AM	#55 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	I don't like the break because being home isn't as fun as being at school.
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a

12-05-2004, 03:28 PM	#56 (permalink)
George Sherman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fullerton & Damen Posts: 1,109 Internets: 14	I fucking hate December, I hate the holiday season...it sucks.
	...to abuse the testicles of the establishment.

12-05-2004, 11:12 PM	#60 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	Tong is right
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a

12-05-2004, 05:05 AM	#52 (permalink)
tonguegina I like dirt. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,861 Internets: 2790	You'd think there would be some good lessons in those first 13-14 years, too. I mean, puberty hits. I'm sure he'd be tempted by some ladies, maybe it could address masturbation (as some of us know that it doesn't, besides Onan which I still believe covers a different subject). I mean, if he didn't sin then he probably didn't have sex since he was never married (that seems to be a hot button to Christians). You know, did he flog the dolphin or did he just need to do the laundry every couple of weeks...if you know what I mean.

12-05-2004, 05:26 AM	#54 (permalink)
tonguegina I like dirt. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,861 Internets: 2790	I still think that you can change politics by stating your opinion, writting your congressman, getting involved. See, this is what I like about this time of year. Are you reading how optimistic I've been? This is not me. This is the only month of the year that I'm like this. My spirits are lifted and I'm in a better mood. I don't know why. Is my status different? No. Am I treated differently by others? No. But for some reason, at this time every year, I'm a happier person. In all reality, there's a point to the north where a change in weather is harder to notice as well. It snows all year round and aside from the amount of sunlight, it's practically the same as well. Anyway, I'm going to go back and restate what I originally said. You are complaining about Indiana, not December. I still don't feel that it should have bearing. You do. That's fine. Let's just agree to disagree, because we're saying the same fucking things over and over and over again and I've become bored with it. And by the way, I still don't understand how you think a 3 week break from school is a negative aspect. Will you get 3 week vacations from work after you graduate? I've become all about taking advantage of moments and situations and this is a time to enjoy your life and consider yourself lucky. You won't have many more opportunities like these.