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Unread 08-07-2009, 05:30 PM   #226 (permalink)
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With nothing on the line: "the bill WILL pass."

With something on the line: "I'm barely more than 50% certain the bill will pass."

Glad we could clear that up.
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Unread 08-07-2009, 09:41 PM   #227 (permalink)
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With nothing on the line: "the bill WILL pass."

With something on the line: "I'm barely more than 50% certain the bill will pass."

Glad we could clear that up.
If you can direct me to the post where I said "the bill WILL pass" then I'll give you 2:1. If not, and you were just trying to catch me saying something that you think I said, then you can take the even money. I said we "will win this" meaning we will win the battle. That doesn't mean this specific 1207 bill will pass.

Good try, though.
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Unread 08-07-2009, 10:52 PM   #228 (permalink)
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Unread 08-26-2009, 11:44 AM   #233 (permalink)
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BOOM! HEADSHOT!!!

Federal Reserve Loses Bloomberg FOIA Lawsuit, Sensitive Disclosures Forthcoming

Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve must make public reports about recipients of emergency loans from U.S. taxpayers under programs created to address the financial crisis, a federal judge ruled.

This is in relation to a lawsuit filed by Bloomberg LP against the Federal Reserve on November 7, 2008, in Southern District of New York (08-09595), in which Bloomberg sought material loan and collateral data in relation to emergency loans released by the Fed, and which were previously claimed to be non-FOIAble.

This is a large blow against the Fed and specifically against organizations using FOIA loopholes from providing critical information, specifically in cases involving trillions of taxpayer dollars bailing out huge, systematically and politically embedded financial organizations.

The conclusion from the order just issued by District Judge Loretta Preska is as follows:

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The Board's Motion for Summary Judgment is DENIED, and Bloomberg's Motion for Summary Judgment is GRANTED. Specifically:

1. The Board shall produce forwith the Remaining Term Reports within five business days of the date hereof;

2. The Board shall search forthwith records at the FRBNY that constitute "Records of the Board" within the meaning of 12 C.F.R. # 231.2(i)(1); and

3. The parties shall confer following their review of the results of the search and inform the Court by letter no later than September 14, 2009 how they propose to proceed.

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The beneficial outcome means that many more FOIA-based lawsuits against the Federal Reserve will now spring up, and with case law on their side, the outcomes of most will likely be on behalf of the plaintiffs. This could detour any short-circuit attempts by either Congress or Senate to prevent a Fed audit, as it may suddenly not be necessary, now that there is this alternative venue to get various pieces of information, previously not available to the general public.
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Interesting and valuable precedent for the FOIA for sure. What pieces of information do you suspect will be brought to the public eye, proof of what we already suspect (the major corporations that were/are being bailed out being in bed with major political persons/institutions) or something more sinister?
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Unread 08-27-2009, 01:19 AM   #235 (permalink)
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The exposure is a snowball effect. That's why the Fed tried to keep everything hush hush. Once bad practice is proven, the public will demand more and more and the Fed has already proven in NUMEROUS congressional panel investigations that they cannot prove anything.
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Unread 08-28-2009, 06:38 AM   #236 (permalink)
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TheCypressTimes : A FREE TEXAS; AUGUST 29TH TO BE HISTORIC DATE

saw this on the rogan board, thread was titled, 'Texas to Secede on 8.29.09: 1,000,000 signatures'


The 29th of August promises to be the turning point in Texas and in the United States. A crowd of Texans plan to descend on the state capitol and demand that Governor Perry and our elected officials either enforce the 10th amendment on the federal government or secede from the union. The big question is if the governor will show up or if the pressing other business he has that day is more important. As of this writing he will not be there to receive the petition being put forth by Gerry Donaldson of drawaline.org.

This is going to be one of, if not the most important events in recent Texas history. Gerry has collected a few thousand signatures for this petition for sovereignty or secession. The Texas Nationalist Movement has a reported million signatures on their petition that is just for
secession.

Our leaders have not paid attention to recent events. The public has been peacefully holding tea parties that have really just been ignored by the rulers of this land. They recently have been getting an angry earful at town hall meetings. The lapdog media has been calling them mobs of GOP operatives and so has the left elitist leaders. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

This movement has cut clear across party lines. Citizens of this country are fed up with our elected officials spending us into bankruptcy and disrupting our lives. This has led us to the events planned on the 29th.
It is plain that the federal government will not change unless change is forced upon it. Governor Perry needs to get his priorities straight. Texans have had enough being ignored and that is never a good thing.

Will he and the legislature push for and enforce Texas sovereignty or will we the People of Texas push secession on them? Will we change the direction this country is heading or will the words "This meeting can do nothing further to save the country." be heard
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Barney Frank is now suggesting HR 1207 will be brought for a vote before year's end.
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Barney Frank also thinks he's going to overturn the UIGEA so let's not let our panties get too wet yet.
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Thinking he'll overturn the UIGEA and bringing a bill to the floor are just a bit different. Try not to act so stupid.
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House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank has officially agreed to hold hearings on HR 1207. The hearings are tentatively scheduled for Friday, September 25 at 9:00 am.
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Obama team makes it official: Budget deficit hits record. By a lot.
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Either this or the islam thread, figured more people would watch here.

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Either this or the islam thread, figured more people would watch here.

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"...We've become so used to weasel-words and double standards, that the truth has become DISTINCTLY unfashionable. Speaking your mind is now seen as virtually antisocial, because some opportunistic crybaby is SURE to take offense and throw a tantrum, and *that* might threaten community cohesion."
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Oregon voters pass tax increasing measures by big margin | Politics & Elections - - Oregonlive.com

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So who will they tax when the rich leave and they are left with more financial problems?
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