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Unread 03-07-2003, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just found out from my Dad-police can lie..but probably not school administration...

So I was wrong in saying Police can't lie when I was in LeMasters room...thats bullshit, but whatever...

Anyway, after hearing one of my pal's comments about the continued lieing of the administration, then anson saying that he did not lie--it made me mad.

I hate it when anyone thinks they are above anyone else--and this is obviously the case.

So I started talking about possibly creating popups on nubblies of something like "Brumfield takes it in the ass from Anson" or something to that effect...then LeMasters overheard and said--slander is illegal, you can get sued.

So I started thinking some more..and here is what I have come up with..

Register a domain like wchsadministration.com (only $7..i'll cover), and create a page with the following

at the top, all administrators and their pictures listed, directly below, their names, address, home phone, email, and possibly school extension

Underneath that in another section, put all the events that are bullshit this year. Gay clubs, dress code, and of course lieing...

Directly beneath this, there will be "Recent Topics" from a message board for wchsadministration.com where people can post their opinions...

My hope would be that people would step up and write letters, or explain their encounters with the administration in detail, sign their name--and it would be added to the site...

Basically a formal bashing of the wchs administration...

From that point contact the newspaper--and show them what is up...and of course forward the address to the school administration..

My ultimate hope would be that it pisses the administration off--sure they are above everyone else and can get away w/saying whatever they want, but they can't take this down! I'd be really cool if we could get some press on THEM..

If anybody has any thoughts about this--let me know...still thinking about it, and will probably determine the legality of it all (right now dad says it is probably alright ot post pics and phone number--as pics would come off their website, so they ahve given permission for it to be on the net, and the phone book is public record)
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Unread 03-07-2003, 08:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Active, I PM'd you with some of my thoughts and knowledge related to my involvement in one of the several incidents you mentioned. There is an apparent fear of dissent permeating WCHS, and it is wrong. The administration has walked a thin line this whole year, and has crossed this line at least once. If they lied to student suspects to try to encourage false confessions, this is wrong. I also think the students, while violating the internet use policy, did not break the law, and did not deserve the punishment they recieved.

Bah, I think the website would make an interesting point, and yes, it could not be libelous (not slanderous, it's in writing... ).

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Unread 03-08-2003, 12:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well after hearing what Victim has had to say--makes me want to do it even more...

Will need lots of content to have it be effective. If you know someone, or have a story..contact me.

I'm looking for people willing to explain everything from their viewpoint, AND put their name at the bottom. Nicknames will not do.

If a good list can be compiled..I'll get on this right away...

Also, would be good to come up with a list of stupidities just to give us some idea what there is to work with...right now I'm thinking:

Dress Code
Gay Clubs
Bad Weather--No Delays
Puke thing
Lieing

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I was in an accident on the way to school one morning and being the good student i am, i still went to school, late. I showed up at school about a half-hour to an hour late and went to the attendance office. My mom had called in and told them i would be coming.
I get there and they give me an unexcused absence. BULLSHIT! I got a 2% grade reductin because i got in an accident.

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Active, I talked to you today, and the more I think about it, the more I like the idea. I have told a couple of people about the site, so if you could have it up and running as soon as possible, even if there isn't a whole lot on it, that would be cool. Oh, and I would gladly give a story and sign it. I hate the administration and would love to piss them off. Fuck Akers, Ansen, Furber, and Brumfield. They're all lying bastards.
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Menace, just so you know, it is against the law for the school to dock your grade like this. If you have your mom call the school and mention that it is not legal, I'm pretty sure you won't have a problem getting your 2% back.
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I got expelled for posting a vulgar message on a message board...

There are quite a few little things that have to do with this that could be included...perhaps, after the matter finds itself in a more "settled" state, I'll go ahead and list some of them.

Actually, regarding the most recent flexing of Administration Muscle, it would be pretty cool to get each of the four accused parties' runthrough of exactly what happened. It'd be kinda neat to see what EXACTLY each person was told once we were all separated. I mean, I've talked to the other 3 and basically figured out what they were trying to accomplish...and how they were going about it...but it'd be something to get all 4 accounts written out so that they could be compared side by side by anyone who cared enough to read...

Again, perhaps after the situation is settled this prospect could be looked at a bit more...

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trout Sniffer:
Menace, just so you know, it is against the law for the school to dock your grade like this. If you have your mom call the school and mention that it is not legal, I'm pretty sure you won't have a problem getting your 2% back.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fought it for a little while, it was last term anyways, so it is too late. But hell, its never too late to argue.
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Unread 03-08-2003, 03:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Orgazmo, I think this is a great idea. I have talked to you and my partner who is still in school and have heard all of the lies that were told and so I know how shitty the administration was, but for all 4 statements to be compared side by side by anybody who wants to read them, now that is a great idea. This definitely needs to be included on the website.

Oh, and I also know of 3 other people that are getting together Monday in class to write a letter to the editor in the Times Union about the whole issue. I believe it is Mighty Python(Senior Class Prez), Pliedes(Student Body Vice Prez), and the president of NHS, BT. It is also my understanding that they will sign their names along with their titles just to get the point across a little better. Thank you to you 3, we appreciate all of everybody's help.
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Unread 03-08-2003, 03:30 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Wow, those are 3 HUGE names that will demand attention.

It is very very appreciated. That honestly could open up some eyes...
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Hey, sounds like you guys are heading down the road to the opposite of perdition.

This type of manipulation and absence of any type of intelligence in the administration has got to stop.

Definitely, definitely, definitely count my son-of-former-and-well-respected-assistant-super-indendent name on anything that needs signing.

And hell, with the president of NHS's signature on that threefold strong letter, you'll be all set, she's such a fox.




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Unread 03-08-2003, 05:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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it's great to see everyone rally around an issue the way you are. I think that the website should remain under wraps until the orgz/fiddy incident is resolved. there's no need to potentially add more fodder to their flame. I hope that, in the end, cooler heads will prevail. The letters to the editor, however, is a great idea... especially from those in high standings with the school. if it is possible, the best would be to get a teacher to write a letter or either orgz/fiddy to write explaining thier side a little more clearly than the front page piece did. basically, most of warsaw still only knows one side of the story, to get the rest of it out and possibly stir a public outcry would be great. unfortunately, my name would probably do more harm than good, but if the StabMaster can do anything to help, let me know.
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Unread 03-08-2003, 08:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Just to let everyone know here's how gay our admin. is.

My dad, "What happends when a student goes to school stone cold drunk?"

Ferber, "They get a 10 day suspension."

My dad, "And you feel that what my son is worse than going to school drunk?"

Ferber, "Yes."

Amazing, absolutely amazing.

Also, I will be more than happy to write my side of the story on the website after my parents meet with the admin.

I'd also like to thank everyone for their help once again.

Another point you could bring up on the site is the 77 expulsions, and 400 some suspensions in one year...

Active I'd be more than happy to help u cover the 7 dollar cost.
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Me and my two compatriots will be working on a formal letter to the editor tomorrow night, but we must be very careful with what we say and how we say it. The original plan was to write concerning the 50azmo situation, but seeing as how most of my personal distaste is rooted in the actions of Mr.McGuire, the new and problematic superintendent, i think we might broaden what we write about.

Here's the thing though.

I've already gotten in deep shit this year for originating and distributing flyers (with another unnamed nubblite) which attacked the administration for the dress code. Because of my position in the student council, I was reamed for what I did, even though it was between the students and I, because I 'knew the proper channels [to work things out between students and admin] and didn't use them'. So you can imagine how this would go over.

So I ask your help for ideas concerning what topics to address, what we should say,and how it all should be said.
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&lt;- Unnamed Nubblite

I liked it when we called them fascists...


Oh yes, and the yelling match was a whole lot of fun. This year has been a bunch of bullshit and I'm rather pissed that I actually have to spend another year here, yes, I'm a Junior. Fuck that.
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I just gave a thorough proofreading to the letter that mighty, pliedes, and the sexy fox president of NHS wrote, and it looks pretty damn good.

It's professional, short, sweet, to the point, and it's very intelligent and not an informal "bashing". It's good. Hopefully the morons on capitol hill will recognize it's importance.
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Ah damn....wish I would have known about the letter beforehand. I wanted to contribute....argh.
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I know this probably wont help anything, but cant we write an informal "bash" letter as well? It'd just ease my mind to write a huge-ass complaint with "FUCK YOU" smeared on the envelope. Inside would be lude threats and maliciously degenerate slang such as "eat shit you cum-guzzling ass mongers" or we'd call them dirty jews. It'd all just make me feel a little better.
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I can just see it now. In a few months, we'll be sending in a formal letter of congratulations to the administration for actually doing something right in weeding out the Mexicans of our school.

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Seriously Anky, I think you should do it.
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After being absent from this message board for a few days, I must say I am quite impressed with some of the things that are brewing up on here.

I really really really like AcTivE's idea with that website. It is completely legal, and it is a complete slap-in-the-face of the WCHS Administration.

As I told Orgazmo, I had an incident with the Administration last year, in which: A certain "B.F." told an Administrator that I spit on his face on a bus-trip that previous weekend. I did NOT spit on his face. He had NO witnesses that could come forth on his behalf and say that I had spit on his face; yet, I got a Friday School. So basically what he did was; tell the Administration that I spit on his face, and being the dictatorial people that they are, they leveyed me with a Friday School with no proof of my "deviance" at all. Fuck them.

Anywho, I really like all of the ideas that you guys are tossing around. I submitted a letter to the editor on the day that 50 and Orgazmo were expelled, and added a "Do Not Print" clause to the letter. I received some feedback from "Teresa Smith" (who works for the paper), and she basically told me that it was a great letter, and it was very level-headed, and she was very disappointed that I would not let her print it; so pliedes and co., if you want to read that letter or whatever to steal some ideas or what-not, just let me know, and I'll give it to you.

I am behind both 50 and Orgazmo 110%, so if there is anything that I can do to help their cause, or be-little the administration's cause, just let me know. I really admire the character that a lot of you have had in this delima.

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[quote]Originally posted by 50 Cent:
Another point you could bring up on the site is the 77 expulsions, and 400 some suspensions in one year...

I am putting together a program together that is kinda funny. I was wondering if there was anyway that you could get me a list of the expulsions and suspensions. Or at least most of them. They will be put in the program along with everything else of the admins. phone, pic, job, and bashes. Hey man thank if you can help me out here.


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Once you get that letter done, sent, or whatever, you should post it here so we all can read it, it sounds very interesting.
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