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Unread 08-06-2008, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Political Ticket: Repug and Obama VS. Ugly and Mccain

Take turns starting a topic. First person (repug) must give his position why Obama/Mccain will make a better President due to a specific issue. It should be an issue that you think people on this board would care about. Bring up stance on abortion or gay marriage, and no one is going to really fucking care either way.

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The opening argument for each topic must be less than 300 words.

Each person gets a total of 3 posts for each argument.

Posts can be in any format. You can post questions outside the body in bullet points or whatever if they don't want them to count against their word cap.

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Unread 08-07-2008, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't agree with issues like abortion and gay marriage being something people on this board don't (or shouldn't) care about. You're already undermining civil rights issues. But anyway...

...The first topic I'll talk about is the Iraq war, one all of you manly men can appreciate. I'll try to keep it to 300 words, though I think it's an arbitrary limit that forces us to oversimplify things.

Ahem.

The war began in 2003, supported by McCain, even though it was, and continues to be, illegal. Obama opposed it from the start.

Approximately $474 billion has been spent as of 12/07. The CBO (congressional budget office) has estimated the total cost of the war in Iraq to U.S. taxpayers will be around $1.9 trillion. It is a financial black hole that is greatly contributing to bankrupting our country. This money could be much better spent on education and health care.

McCain claims the surge is working, but that's because he and the Republican party keep moving the metaphorical goal post. McCain, like Bush, is stubborn and rigid when it comes to the war. He refuses to entertain alternatives, going on record as to say he's prepared to stay in Iraq for 100 years (however long it takes) to achieve "victory".

The toll on the Iraq people is staggering. Civilian causalities are in the tens of thousands, health care has deteriorated to pre-1950's levels, and 35% of children in Iraq are orphans. And the use of white phosphorus is devastating the country as well. Learn about phosphorus here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus

Our international reputation, and as a result some of our clout, has weakened. Our allies were reluctant to join and anxious to leave. Almost 70% of American's don't support the war, and even less in most foreign countries.

And why? Why did McCain vote to go in in the first place? And why are we still there? It can be strongly argued that Al Qaeda is stronger than ever. Our military is stretched too thin and we should focus on Afghanistan, like we originally were.

The Iraqi prime minster recently asked us for a timetable to withdraw, but does McCain care? No. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4288108.ece

My questions for UB:
How many years, how much money, and how many American and Iraqi deaths are you willing to accept in order to achieve McCain's elusive goals?

Why do you support an illegal war, and a candidate whose view on it goes against what the the large majority of the very citizens he is suppose to serve, wants?

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Unread 08-14-2008, 12:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Unread 08-14-2008, 03:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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UB is too smart to waste time debating someone like me (10).
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Unread 08-14-2008, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Honestly... I just can't bring myself to spend a bunch of time and mental energy on this. That's what bothers me about socialists... they think that just because their time is worth nothing that everyone else's must be worth nothing too.
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Unread 08-14-2008, 06:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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UB loses, democrats win.

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Unread 08-14-2008, 07:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Unread 09-25-2008, 05:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Which one of you assholes made another account?

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Unread 09-25-2008, 08:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Unread 09-25-2008, 09:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i think he just needs a really hip avatar and he'll be set

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Unread 09-25-2008, 09:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Might I suggest one of Savage Garden's many album covers.
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Unread 09-25-2008, 09:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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many? weren't they a one hit wonder
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are u kidding me?

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Truely Madly Deeply was mine and about 3 girls songs in Middle School... Awesome Compilation.

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Don't put Newman out there.

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Inviting outside friends is always a risky endeavor. I made the mistake of doing that once and was totally embarrassed by his outlandish noobery. I believe at one point he used the term, "too shay."

Why is it that they try so hard?

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<3 I think everyone should get a Savage Garden avatar <3
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Savage Garden was the shit... besides being the comparable music group to SNL's Ambiguously Gay Duo (Ace and Gary).
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Savage Garden is and always has been faggot music.

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