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Unread 08-27-2011, 09:42 PM   #376 (permalink)
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Please show me one example of the democratic candidates being asked these questions.
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Newsflash F3lix: Democrats are generally science-friendly and acknowledge the fact of evolution, particularly since the Vatican endorsed it. But to ease your furrowed brow:

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Unread 08-28-2011, 08:18 AM   #378 (permalink)
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Unread 08-28-2011, 10:29 AM   #379 (permalink)
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Putting on the blinders eh. Classic Republican move.
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Ignoring my question because you don't have an answer, eh? Classic politician
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? There are no current democratic candidates, dude. I gave you an article talking about the question posed to both Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton, both Democratic politicians. What more do you want?

There are no serious democratic candidates running for President. I gave you something of equal value from the past.
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Unread 08-28-2011, 03:54 PM   #382 (permalink)
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He was asked about teaching in school, not what he believed, sir.
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Ron Paul, however, doesn't believe in evolution

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good lord man, for a man who claims to hate fox news you sure are similar.
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McCain was in 8th months after this point 4 years ago.


Did McCain win the election?!?!

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Gotta be careful how you debate f3lix. He makes numerous idiotic claims, demands that you provide evidence refuting his numerous claims, and if anyone slips up, he declares victory. So now he's going to say "No, but he won the nomination" and act like he just won the argument. Let the grown-ups handle this, Shaw.

The biggest problem facing Ron Paul, the way I see it, is that he still has the lable "unelectable" attatched to him, which the other R candidates will repeat again and again until everyone believes it, and the nomination will go to a more traditional candidate... my guess is Romney, because he looks like he has cross-party appeal, since he's from MA. The ironic thing is, Paul is actually the most electable republican because he would capture a huge chunks of independants and also probably some dems. His percieved weakness is that he wouldn't put up big nnoumbers within his own party, but let's face it, nobody from within the GOP could beat Obama last time around and now he's playing with home court advantage.

People who think that he's going to be weaker because of missteps he's made in the past 3 years are forgetting what a good fucking campaigner he is. I mean f3lix even claimed that he was a poor debator (sp?) This man whips the left into a fucking rabid furor. He's going to have a bigger budget and he's not going to have to go to war with hillary, instead he gets to sit and laugh while the republicans take chunks out of each other. It's going to be awesome.

Maybe Paul should run as an independant. Although I think it's a mistake to say he's not conservative (he so is), he has nothing in common with the republican party anymore, most of whom see themselves as "value" voters. I can see a scenario where we get to November with three candidates... Obama, Ron Paul, and a battle-weary GOP candidate. There are two scenarios here which could benefit Paul: 1) the republican candidate gets marginalized early, or 2) it turns into a free-for-all. Neither of these scenarios seem likely, but it might still be his best shot (when you're being priced at 4% likely, it doesn't hurt to shake everything up.)

But in the end I think the GOP candidates will do their best to make Paul seem unelectable and try to take him out early. Then they'll rip on each other for a while, and whoever emerges out of the shitstorm loses, Obama wins by a slightly smaller margin than he beat McCain by. If he wins by a larger margin, then there is a very good chance that the GOP is on the outs by, let's say, 2024.
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F3lix is going to tout RP as being electable until November 9th, 2012, at which point he will blame his loss on something else other than RP's appeal to the public. Just like last time.

The problem is he can't reconcile reality that we currently live in a very embarrassing portion of American history with how great he and others (myself included, except on a few obvious points) think that Ron Paul is.

This goes back to, of course, education. Ironically, the exact same people F3lix agrees with on a lot of things, are the exact same people who have been failed by the public education system (miserably), which has mostly failed because of budget cuts and and the general anti-progressive-thought of the Republican Party.
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Maybe Paul should run as an independant. Although I think it's a mistake to say he's not conservative (he so is), he has nothing in common with the republican party anymore, most of whom see themselves as "value" voters
The Republicans aren't conservative any more.

But Ron Paul is more akin to Classical liberalism than Conservatism.
His only traditionally "conservative" stance is on abortion which he backs up with non-religious rationale.


The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.
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Let's settle with
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Ooooh never heard of that one before.

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The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.
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Ummmm About being well spoken and all of that.

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Imagine if all media treated him like a person with ideas instead of a nutcase
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Mitt Romney can burn in Mormon Hell. Tonight, he just labeled himself as a member of The Tea Party, by narrowing it down to them being about smaller government, lowering taxes, and creating jobs. Fuck Mitt Romney. UB - ship the cash now the Romney has flip-flopped again.
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Of the 8 candidates in tonight's debate, there are some movers in my rankings of who I'd like to see win (based on who I affiliate with politically)

I support:
Ron Paul
Herman Cain

eh
Rick Perry
Michelle Bachman
Newt Gingrich

fuck no
Rick Santorum
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John Huntsman
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I only caught about the last half hour or so. Watching from beginning now. Huntsman didn't seem that bad, but all I really saw was him call out the Republicans for being anti-science (which they mostly are).
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John Harris and Brian Williams did a KICK ASS job IMO
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F3lix what do you not like about Huntsman? This is the first I've really seen of him.
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