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Unread 08-07-2011, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tottenham riot over Mark Duggan shooting sparked by police 'beating' girl? | Mail Online


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Unread 08-09-2011, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unread 08-09-2011, 08:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Cliff notes on why there are riots please.
To expand on Kremlin's answer a bit (and to bring the answer to this thread), this is how I've understood the cause of the riots:

A notorious drug dealer/gangster named Mark Duggan (which is what FC's article mentions) was killed by police after allegedly shooting at cops (and lodging a bullet in one of their police radios). This was the cited reason for the protests, but the underlying cause is more that the urban folks (mostly black, but it's more about being poor, having a shitty life and no job prospects) feel like the rich are given preferential treatment, job rates are shitty, and those in urban areas feel like they really have no hope for a decent future. Given the Duggan thing as an excuse to get together, they've started feeding off of each others' angst.

The rioters seem to be dumb, poor people who feel like they'll always be dumb, poor people because they were brought up by dumb, poor people. It's compounded by the fact that dumb, poor people are becoming poorer by not being able to get a job (because there aren't enough jobs to employ all of the dumb people).

That's what some say. Others say things like:

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The Youth of the Middle East rise up for basic freedoms.The Youth of London rise up for a HD ready 42" Plasma TV
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I love how the poor people of London are thoroughly destroying their own neighbourhoods.


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this is how I've understood the cause of the riots:

A notorious drug dealer/gangster named Rodney King (which is what FC's article mentions) was beaten by police after allegedly resisting arrest. This was the cited reason for the protests, but the underlying cause is more that the urban folks (mostly black, but it's more about being poor, having a shitty life and no job prospects) feel like the rich are given preferential treatment, job rates are shitty, and those in urban areas feel like they really have no hope for a decent future. Given the Duggan thing as an excuse to get together, they've started feeding off of each others' angst.

The rioters seem to be dumb, poor people who feel like they'll always be dumb, poor people because they were brought up by dumb, poor people. It's compounded by the fact that dumb, poor people are becoming poorer by not being able to get a job (because there aren't enough jobs to employ all of the dumb people).

That's what some say.
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Unread 08-09-2011, 12:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I love how the poor people of London are thoroughly destroying their own neighbourhoods.
You hear that Kremlin, he's calling you poor.
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It's not just poor areas anymore.

This place has 2 Michelin stars and is in an amazing neighborhood. It's one of the best restaurants I've ever been to:

London riots: kitchen staff at Notting Hill restaurant The Ledbury protect diners with rolling pins - Telegraph


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Unread 08-09-2011, 03:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Those diners were pussies. Jules wouldn't of had any of that shit.



Kudos to the staff though.
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you spelled neighborhood wrong, nerd

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you spelled neighborhood wrong, nerd
Ha. I actually spelled it right the first time but spell check corrected it and I was too lazy to Americanize it.


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I love how the poor people of London are thoroughly destroying their own neighbourhoods.
Plenty of them are upper or middle class white college kids; although on the day you posted this, it wasn't as widespread.
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