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Nutcracker19 · 11-19-2002, 12:29 AM

it just seems to me that if it was gist you guys would have no problem with the school not allowing ski club to use the buses... maybe i took your point wrong

BrassMonkees · 11-19-2002, 12:32 AM

which religions are you talking about causing wars

in the past many have been fought on misguided takes on religion, not just christitianity. a great example right now is the jihad. some extremists giving their a religion an even worse name

Nutcracker19 · 11-19-2002, 12:33 AM

what i am trying to say is that you all are sitting here complaining about them but only a few of you such as brass are acctually listening to what Jake has to say and are just ignoring him and are staying on that one tracked thought.... not even trying to see the other side...

Jake · 11-19-2002, 12:34 AM

Brass Monkey: I believe you are completly right. i also believe from a christian stand point that acting upon homosexuality is wrong. As far as my beliefs. i consider myself agnostic. I just think there are to many variable to make an outright decision just based on faith, which the major religions of the world use.

Titan · 11-19-2002, 12:34 AM

i think what the school needs is just a few good new cheers for the cheerleaders

'gsa gsa
everybody knows we're gay
we screw clubs we screw clubs
we also screw up the butt
can't we all just get along
even if we don't know where to put our shlongs?
i guess not cuz no one likes us
guess it's time to STOP THE FUSS'

that whole part about the shlongs would actually be very funny to hear come out of a cheerleaders mouth

AcTivE · 11-19-2002, 12:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake:
Brass Monkey: I believe you are completly right. i also believe from a christian stand point that acting upon homosexuality is wrong. As far as my beliefs. i consider myself agnostic. I just think there are to many variable to make an outright decision just based on faith, which the major religions of the world use.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

shouldn't act on all of the feelings that you have...I know I speak for all of us when I say that we all have a little "butt pirate" in us...I mean come on, tell me you wouldn't fuck Tom Hanks if he asked you...

Jake · 11-19-2002, 12:36 AM

I didnt mean to single out christianity in my post about relgions causing war. I meant that most major religion from an extreme point and even some not so extreme such as the crusades which most of europe participated in, or present day jihad have cause alot of death and so relgion can never leave with a clean sheet.

BrassMonkees · 11-19-2002, 12:39 AM

i guess it all comes down to faith. and if that doesn't work, research. research what religion is true. i do both. so many beliefs and religions offer false hope, irregularities, and hypocracy. that includes athiesm and being an agnostic. whatever view you look from, there are "holes" there are none for christianity however. when you truly dig into it, throwing out stupid denominational beliefs, you will find truth. C.S. Lewis is the best example i can give of that

11-19-2002, 12:39 AM

Nutcracker, this is getting quite redundant. So I'm gonna say this one more time. If you post one more time I'm going to shove a bottle of draino down your throat.

The Comedian · 11-19-2002, 12:40 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake:
present day jihad have cause alot of death and so relgion can never leave with a clean sheet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's what I hate about extreme liberal-homosexuals. They always pawn off the world's problems on someone else in an effort to justify their perverted lifestyle.

I hope the jihad blows up your house. That's one death I wouldn't mind seeing Jake.

------------------
~The Comedian~

Nutcracker19 · 11-19-2002, 12:41 AM

i am glad that someone is acctually listening to what people have to say and are willing to have intelligent things to say

BrassMonkees · 11-19-2002, 12:41 AM

wow active, you're a crazy man aren't ya. i guess we all knew that already didn't we.

of course religions will never have a clean sheet. the human race is far to stupid to allwo that to happen

Jake · 11-19-2002, 12:44 AM

comedian tell me who you are.. you say you know me rather well, but obviously you dont. im never mean to anyone so i dont see your problem with me. Hell if i had never said i was gay you would probably have had no problem with me at all.

11-19-2002, 12:45 AM

I'm not reading anything you say. I just see your name and post something mean. If you didn't notice I never made any reference to anything you said in your posts. Stupid slut.

Titan · 11-19-2002, 12:45 AM

hey brass, what are you reasons for saying that christianity is the only without holes? (curious)

The Comedian · 11-19-2002, 12:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake:
im never mean to anyone so i dont see your problem with me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's why I don't like you Jake. Your a faggy push-over who never stands up to anyone. You just want to be everyone's buddy (sometimes you want to be more than their buddy). Just because you are nice all the time, doesn't mean I have to like you. You sicken me, pervert.

~The Comedian~

[This message has been edited by The Comedian (edited November 18, 2002).]

Jake · 11-19-2002, 12:50 AM

brass i would like to know also. heres another problem ive had with christinity that has always pondered me...
if someone has never heard the word jesus uttered in their life. do they go to heaven or hell? If they go to heaven then it is unfair to me for having to struggle my whole life with this issue. if they dont go to heaven then it is unfair to them for not getting a chance. And what about menatlly handicapped people who dont have the capacity to understand god? Do they get free rides to heave or hell? Just some questions that plague me.. these are the only ones. just the ones from the top of my head.

BrassMonkees · 11-19-2002, 12:51 AM

hmm reasons as in how christianity has no holes?

im somewhat confused on the question, but let me answer it as how i see it.

well when you look at a lot of the other religions, take hindu or muslim or buddism or whatever, you see discrepancies. like love everyone, but its ok to kill those who are against you - hindu. seems pretty shady doesn't it. you should love everyone, but don't love those who don't love you...hmmm..then there is the ones who found many of those religions. what did people do before they came along? are they all doomed to eternal damnation? thats what im guessing, because there was no buddha when the world began..A lot are more of a lifestyle also, such as living through the four pillars in order to achieve peace and nirvana. and all of the other religions spin off of christianity, but twist it in order to confuse ppl and mislead them. also when you look at corresponding dates in the bible with history, it is amazing to see how valid it stands up.

Jake · 11-19-2002, 12:54 AM

i dont care what you think of me. but you cant call me a push over, because im man enough to come on your site an debate with some of the most homophobic people in our school, not to mention i had to go the the principals office and tell them that i was possibly goin to sue them if they didnt change their policy. So dont call me a push over. Because i do stand up for myself! The difference between you and me is that, just because i dont like someone i dont have to make a big issue of it and treat them like shit. Kinda goes back to the moral of. If you dont have something nice to say then dont say anything at all. Anyways, id still like to know who you are since you say you know me rather well.

buckeye · 11-19-2002, 12:55 AM

brass monkees, that long post you wrote was the first good one i have seen by you on here.

Jake, good point i agree, just like i would condone any acts of violence against gay people, those are when values are taken too far and are not used what they are intended for.

Titan · 11-19-2002, 12:55 AM

indeed. interesting.

here's another plaguing question. open to anyone. is God going to send all the people who practice other religions and have never been exposed to Christianity to hell because they've not accepted Jesus Christ into their lives? if not, do they get an automatic ticket to Heaven?

Jake · 11-19-2002, 12:57 AM

Good points on the other religions. But isnt one of the ten commandments though shall not kill. And i know the biggest supporters of war with iraq and the death penalty are conservative christians.. just curious.... anyways, im for a war with iraq also but against death penatly, but save that for a different forum

Nutcracker19 · 11-19-2002, 12:58 AM

Titan, you do have a good point to discuss... i sort of belive that they would not be sent to heaven automatically.. but i do not know what to believe on exactly what owuld happen to them

BrassMonkees · 11-19-2002, 12:58 AM

excellent questions jake, i have often pondered those questions too. in the bible, everyone will/has heard of God. that is in scripture. Jesus will not come again until soul has heard the gospel, along with many other factors. I believe, especially in today's times, that it is nearly impossible for someone not to have heard of God before. whether it be missionaries or internet or radio or whatever. in the past this wasn't so easy. without technology, things were much more difficult. there were many missionaries in the world though. and although they could not reach everyone, i believe that by word of mouth most got to hear it. even if that is just wishful thinking, every culture/race/whatever believes in a higher being. could this be a born trait given by God, i think so.

im sorry if these don't seem to logical to you, it is something that i am still researching. i do believe though that everyone will hear the grace of God before they die though.

as for the handicapped and even infants if you want, i believe that there is a place for them in the gates of heaven. when children die young, or are born with severe mental retardation, i believe that they will enter heaven

The Comedian · 11-19-2002, 12:59 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake:
If you dont have something nice to say then dont say anything at all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice touch...Bambi.

------------------
~The Comedian~

11-19-2002, 12:39 AM	#84 (permalink)
50 Cent Guest Posts: n/a	Nutcracker, this is getting quite redundant. So I'm gonna say this one more time. If you post one more time I'm going to shove a bottle of draino down your throat.
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11-19-2002, 12:45 AM	#89 (permalink)
50 Cent Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not reading anything you say. I just see your name and post something mean. If you didn't notice I never made any reference to anything you said in your posts. Stupid slut.
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11-19-2002, 12:29 AM	#76 (permalink)
Nutcracker19 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: indiana Posts: 16 Internets: 10	it just seems to me that if it was gist you guys would have no problem with the school not allowing ski club to use the buses... maybe i took your point wrong

11-19-2002, 12:32 AM	#77 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	which religions are you talking about causing wars in the past many have been fought on misguided takes on religion, not just christitianity. a great example right now is the jihad. some extremists giving their a religion an even worse name

11-19-2002, 12:33 AM	#78 (permalink)
Nutcracker19 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: indiana Posts: 16 Internets: 10	what i am trying to say is that you all are sitting here complaining about them but only a few of you such as brass are acctually listening to what Jake has to say and are just ignoring him and are staying on that one tracked thought.... not even trying to see the other side...

11-19-2002, 12:34 AM	#79 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	Brass Monkey: I believe you are completly right. i also believe from a christian stand point that acting upon homosexuality is wrong. As far as my beliefs. i consider myself agnostic. I just think there are to many variable to make an outright decision just based on faith, which the major religions of the world use.

11-19-2002, 12:34 AM	#80 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	i think what the school needs is just a few good new cheers for the cheerleaders 'gsa gsa everybody knows we're gay we screw clubs we screw clubs we also screw up the butt can't we all just get along even if we don't know where to put our shlongs? i guess not cuz no one likes us guess it's time to STOP THE FUSS' that whole part about the shlongs would actually be very funny to hear come out of a cheerleaders mouth

11-19-2002, 12:36 AM	#81 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake: Brass Monkey: I believe you are completly right. i also believe from a christian stand point that acting upon homosexuality is wrong. As far as my beliefs. i consider myself agnostic. I just think there are to many variable to make an outright decision just based on faith, which the major religions of the world use.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> shouldn't act on all of the feelings that you have...I know I speak for all of us when I say that we all have a little "butt pirate" in us...I mean come on, tell me you wouldn't fuck Tom Hanks if he asked you...

11-19-2002, 12:36 AM	#82 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	I didnt mean to single out christianity in my post about relgions causing war. I meant that most major religion from an extreme point and even some not so extreme such as the crusades which most of europe participated in, or present day jihad have cause alot of death and so relgion can never leave with a clean sheet.

11-19-2002, 12:39 AM	#83 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	i guess it all comes down to faith. and if that doesn't work, research. research what religion is true. i do both. so many beliefs and religions offer false hope, irregularities, and hypocracy. that includes athiesm and being an agnostic. whatever view you look from, there are "holes" there are none for christianity however. when you truly dig into it, throwing out stupid denominational beliefs, you will find truth. C.S. Lewis is the best example i can give of that

11-19-2002, 12:40 AM	#85 (permalink)
The Comedian Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 110 Internets: 10	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake: present day jihad have cause alot of death and so relgion can never leave with a clean sheet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's what I hate about extreme liberal-homosexuals. They always pawn off the world's problems on someone else in an effort to justify their perverted lifestyle. I hope the jihad blows up your house. That's one death I wouldn't mind seeing Jake. ------------------ ~The Comedian~

11-19-2002, 12:41 AM	#86 (permalink)
Nutcracker19 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: indiana Posts: 16 Internets: 10	i am glad that someone is acctually listening to what people have to say and are willing to have intelligent things to say

11-19-2002, 12:41 AM	#87 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	wow active, you're a crazy man aren't ya. i guess we all knew that already didn't we. of course religions will never have a clean sheet. the human race is far to stupid to allwo that to happen

11-19-2002, 12:44 AM	#88 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	comedian tell me who you are.. you say you know me rather well, but obviously you dont. im never mean to anyone so i dont see your problem with me. Hell if i had never said i was gay you would probably have had no problem with me at all.

11-19-2002, 12:45 AM	#90 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	hey brass, what are you reasons for saying that christianity is the only without holes? (curious)

11-19-2002, 12:48 AM	#91 (permalink)
The Comedian Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 110 Internets: 10	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake: im never mean to anyone so i dont see your problem with me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That's why I don't like you Jake. Your a faggy push-over who never stands up to anyone. You just want to be everyone's buddy (sometimes you want to be more than their buddy). Just because you are nice all the time, doesn't mean I have to like you. You sicken me, pervert. ~The Comedian~ [This message has been edited by The Comedian (edited November 18, 2002).]

11-19-2002, 12:50 AM	#92 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	brass i would like to know also. heres another problem ive had with christinity that has always pondered me... if someone has never heard the word jesus uttered in their life. do they go to heaven or hell? If they go to heaven then it is unfair to me for having to struggle my whole life with this issue. if they dont go to heaven then it is unfair to them for not getting a chance. And what about menatlly handicapped people who dont have the capacity to understand god? Do they get free rides to heave or hell? Just some questions that plague me.. these are the only ones. just the ones from the top of my head.

11-19-2002, 12:51 AM	#93 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	hmm reasons as in how christianity has no holes? im somewhat confused on the question, but let me answer it as how i see it. well when you look at a lot of the other religions, take hindu or muslim or buddism or whatever, you see discrepancies. like love everyone, but its ok to kill those who are against you - hindu. seems pretty shady doesn't it. you should love everyone, but don't love those who don't love you...hmmm..then there is the ones who found many of those religions. what did people do before they came along? are they all doomed to eternal damnation? thats what im guessing, because there was no buddha when the world began..A lot are more of a lifestyle also, such as living through the four pillars in order to achieve peace and nirvana. and all of the other religions spin off of christianity, but twist it in order to confuse ppl and mislead them. also when you look at corresponding dates in the bible with history, it is amazing to see how valid it stands up.

11-19-2002, 12:54 AM	#94 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	i dont care what you think of me. but you cant call me a push over, because im man enough to come on your site an debate with some of the most homophobic people in our school, not to mention i had to go the the principals office and tell them that i was possibly goin to sue them if they didnt change their policy. So dont call me a push over. Because i do stand up for myself! The difference between you and me is that, just because i dont like someone i dont have to make a big issue of it and treat them like shit. Kinda goes back to the moral of. If you dont have something nice to say then dont say anything at all. Anyways, id still like to know who you are since you say you know me rather well.

11-19-2002, 12:55 AM	#95 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	brass monkees, that long post you wrote was the first good one i have seen by you on here. Jake, good point i agree, just like i would condone any acts of violence against gay people, those are when values are taken too far and are not used what they are intended for.

11-19-2002, 12:55 AM	#96 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	indeed. interesting. here's another plaguing question. open to anyone. is God going to send all the people who practice other religions and have never been exposed to Christianity to hell because they've not accepted Jesus Christ into their lives? if not, do they get an automatic ticket to Heaven?

11-19-2002, 12:57 AM	#97 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	Good points on the other religions. But isnt one of the ten commandments though shall not kill. And i know the biggest supporters of war with iraq and the death penalty are conservative christians.. just curious.... anyways, im for a war with iraq also but against death penatly, but save that for a different forum

11-19-2002, 12:58 AM	#98 (permalink)
Nutcracker19 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: indiana Posts: 16 Internets: 10	Titan, you do have a good point to discuss... i sort of belive that they would not be sent to heaven automatically.. but i do not know what to believe on exactly what owuld happen to them

11-19-2002, 12:58 AM	#99 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	excellent questions jake, i have often pondered those questions too. in the bible, everyone will/has heard of God. that is in scripture. Jesus will not come again until soul has heard the gospel, along with many other factors. I believe, especially in today's times, that it is nearly impossible for someone not to have heard of God before. whether it be missionaries or internet or radio or whatever. in the past this wasn't so easy. without technology, things were much more difficult. there were many missionaries in the world though. and although they could not reach everyone, i believe that by word of mouth most got to hear it. even if that is just wishful thinking, every culture/race/whatever believes in a higher being. could this be a born trait given by God, i think so. im sorry if these don't seem to logical to you, it is something that i am still researching. i do believe though that everyone will hear the grace of God before they die though. as for the handicapped and even infants if you want, i believe that there is a place for them in the gates of heaven. when children die young, or are born with severe mental retardation, i believe that they will enter heaven

11-19-2002, 12:59 AM	#100 (permalink)
The Comedian Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 110 Internets: 10	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake: If you dont have something nice to say then dont say anything at all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Nice touch...Bambi. ------------------ ~The Comedian~