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11-19-2002, 02:14 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jake:
no comedian im not looking for a friend. i already have someone.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Dude, I'm cool with you being gay. But saying shit like that is gonna make me throw up. Keep your personal life to yourself. |
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11-19-2002, 02:16 AM
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Ex ignum just because you have more experience in the subj means shit. You could study the bible for a thousand years and still not understand. And there are a million people in the world who have studied the bible more than you. so dont get all righteous on everyone. if you have a point make it. dont act all shity and superior to everyone else.
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11-19-2002, 02:23 AM
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Alright then, someone needs schooled.
Niger, if I am correct, all your church ever seems to do is bash catholics. Have you ever TRULY studied the catholic faith? Ever? If I figure correctly, did jesus not instruct his disciples to gather communion regularly? And in the bible, is it not stated that Mary is to be revered as the mother of god? How about this, you go ahead and tell me everything you know about catholicism that is wrong, and you can save me the trouble of having to refute your statements. Because obviosly you seem to know very little about catholicism. |
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11-19-2002, 02:28 AM
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I have studied it more than you have lived it.
Catolosim- prays to Mary not to God. She is to be revered, not prayed to. Confession- it is said that all is dealt with God, there is no need for a priest's intervention. Communion- in no ways says that drinking is right, it even states in the bible that any man who indulges in drink is a fool. Abortion- supported by the church, need I say more. Purgatory- never mentioned in the bible, ever. It is just a way to get $, yes the drive of the catholic church. Pushed to not read the bible- Man is told that the bible is the breathed word of God and must be read by all who believe... need anymore. [This message has been edited by Niger Angelus (edited November 18, 2002).] |
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11-19-2002, 02:50 AM
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I'll take it line by line:
"Catolosim- prays to Mary not to God. She is to be revered, not prayed to." Find me a line that says you are not to pray to the mother of god. How about I give you a book that I have that is written by a protestant on WHY Mary should be prayed to. "Confession- it is said that all is dealt with God, there is no need for a priest's intervention." Confession is not a necessity, nor does the church name it as a requirement. It is available as a counseling. Confession is used to help people rid themselves of guilty conscionces. Think of it this way, it so easy to close your eyes alone and say "god, im sorry..." but it makes more sense to talk with someone about your problems and then get help with it. THAT is what confession is. "Communion- in no ways says that drinking is right, it even states in the bible that any man who indulges in drink is a fool." The last supper dude. Dont tell me you dont know what that is. Jesus is quoted "drink this wine, for it is the blood of the everlasting covenant." It is non alcoholic wine by the way. (just thought you'd know most of this in your entire life study...hehe) "Abortion- supported by the church, need I say more." Eh... if anything Catholic churches are head of most anti-abortion groups moron. I have no idea where you got this one. "Purgatory- never mentioned in the bible, ever. It is just a way to get $, yes the drive of the catholic church." I'm not too sure about how this all came about with this purgatory stuff so i'll have to check on this one for you. "Pushed to not read the bible- Man is told that the bible is the breathed word of God and must be read by all who believe... need anymore." I have no idea where you got this one. Lets see, Degeeter, Munsch, Bonnahoum, Nguyen... all catholic... all straight A students. All a hell of a lot smarter than you. Now, you would think smart people would be able to take what they believe in, question its validity, and confirm a reason for their beliefs. Need anymore? |
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11-19-2002, 05:37 PM
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st anky i don't have a direct scripture for you right now, but the bible states that Jesus is now our intercessor. no longer do we need to pray to a mary or any of the other saints that catholics pray to. Jesus is the one who takes those prayers to the father. together, the trinity does the work, not mary or paul or stephan or whomever you wish. mary was chosen by God to carry Jesus and yes she is respected and honored.
as for the drinking, it says whomever indulges in it. not just drink it. around Jesus's time, and even in our time, alcholic beverages are/were the only ones available. the water was bad so they had to drink wine. of course it is far different than the wine we think of today, but nonetheless it was still acloholic. i believe niger was saying that whomever gets all sloppy drunk is the fool...and christian religions across the world take real wine for communion, so if you both are arguing that point, get it straight. just because many churches in warsaw indiana along with many denominations chose not to serve wine, doesn't mean that drinking is a sin. they chose simply to not serve it becasue it can be difficult for alchoholics to take. as for throwing out degeeter, munsch, bonahoom and whoeverelse you want, don't give me that. im friends with a lot of catholics, and yes some are smart and some are dumb. i can give just as many christians who are straight A+ students, so don't start throwing that card out. all of this fighting between you two is rediculous. it is this stupid bickering that causes separation between denominations and the church. get over it. not all catholics bash christians and not all christians bash catholics. |
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11-19-2002, 08:20 PM
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Well I must say that a conversation that showed a glimmer of hope there for a fleeting moment has turned into a stinking aggregate of ignorance and damn dirty lies. The Comedian, you sure as hell aren't funny, and deserve to be shot like the lame bitch you are. Making false quotes is a pretty asinine thing to do.
Niger, let's focus on you for a second. What "Christian" church do you come from? Looking at your posts, it looks to be that you are being preached hatred and ignorance, a common practice of several local religions. Jesus never told any one to hate another person, but taught the opposite again and again. The Bible, especially parts of the Old Testament, encourages study, something you missed the boat on, perhaps deciding to be spoon fed rhetoric by hate mongers instead. I am a Catholic, and I must say that my faith is complex, and I regularly seek to increase my knowledge of my faith and others. I admit that I don't know everything though, and you do not either. -Catholics are Christians. Stating that our church caters to public opinion, and because of that, should be regarded as secular and illegitimate is sheer nonsense. The truth is that the hierarchy of the Church does little to bend to popular opinion. Sure, we get a lot of media coverage in this country, but then again, there are over 60 million Catholics in the United States, making us the largest religious group by far, with higher concentrations in the major cities, the home of large media companies. What about other churches around here, who actually ADVERTISE to build a congregation? How about those churches who thought that God was too boring for the people, so they decided to liven it up, and make prayer and worship a second priority? I consider myself a Christian, and seeing the hate and ignorance that you like to spew about, more so than yourself. -We do NOT worship Mary. While we're on the subject, we also do NOT worship saints, the Pope, or statues. This is simply WRONG. This is a common misunderstanding that is used against us. I don't want to get into the minute details of this one, but take my word for it on this one. -Abortion is wrong. This has always been the teaching of the Church. As a matter of fact, the Church also frowns upon any method of contraception, although many Catholics do disregard this, and it doesn't mean they're going to hell either. -We did not "make up" Purgatory. The concept of Purgatory came from an apocrathal (sp?) book, 3 Maccabees, while Biblical scholars do not consider it part of the Bible, the Catholic Church accepts this teaching, as do Eastern Orthodox faiths. It is the belief of the Catholic Church that the Bible is not the total of God's revelation. -Catholics are encouraged to read the Bible. -Confession Short answer: You're right, you don't need a priest's intervention... but you're misunderstanding the concept, and I'm really not wise enough on the issue to explain it to you well. As I just said, I'm not an expert on Catholic apologetics, and I really can't go into much detail on the responses I just gave. I can also tell you that people are not perfect and people in the Catholic Church, just like any organization have made mistakes. Corruption and greed have perverted many, it was prevalent during the Middle Ages (causing the Reformation), and there are still problems today, as with other Christian sects, and other religions. As for stating Catholic students are doing better, there is some truth behind that. Catholics do not believe in divorce. This usually creates better home environments, so growing up, the kids usually feel better about themselves and their environment, and have support for academics and anything else they pursue. Also, some of the parents received a Catholic school education, and on the most part, parochial schools have higher standards for academics. Higher standards lead to better grades, which eventually lead to better jobs, so the parents can afford parochial school for their kids, and so on. Having a good family background makes better students, and the Catholic Church encourages good family values, so it makes sense that many of the best students in the school are Catholic. That's all... (if any of this made me look like I was pulling the "holier than thou" shit that people in this town like to pull, I'm sorry, that wasn't my intent, I'm just trying to educate, because hate and ignorance go hand and hand) [This message has been edited by victim (edited November 19, 2002).] |
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11-20-2002, 12:55 AM
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if its not a gay club, then why do they all wear rainbows lanyards? i mean the rainbow stands for GAY PRIDE, i dont hate gay people, or really care what they do as long as i dont have to know about it, i mean in a way its offensive and repulsive to see to fat lesbians walking down the halls kissing. and these gay people dont want to be segregated from the rest of our school, but them making their own club is just segregating them more, we are supposed to try and bring out school together and not just place everyone into who is gay and who is straight, the club is just going to make more problems rather than make us like gay people more, if anything i think less of them now
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11-20-2002, 08:56 PM
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Gsa isnt just for gays. Its is for anyone who is supportive and tolerant of gays. It also proviedes unity by tryin to educate the shool on the issue of homosexuality to help eliminate intolerance. Finally, your right that it's gross to see 2 fat lesbians, kissing in the hallway, but it's also gross to see two fat hetero's kiss in the hallway. So to solve the problem everyone should stop PDA.
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11-21-2002, 12:55 AM
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catholocism is the biggest crock of bullshit in any religion
on cnn.com a couple weeks ago the pope added 5 new parts to the rosary can he do that? the holy wars what the hell come on priests and little boys good works does not get you to heaven if you believe in heaven you get their through faith and faith alone |
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