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AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
Dirty,

Thank you for your lack of participation in this argument. Your consistent insults torwards posters seems to have completely outshadowed your desire to try to present a reasonable argument. If my posts are mediocre, yours have been just as bad. My place is the seat I'm sitting in, nothing new to learn there. Find your place bitch, I believe that place is probably the shit-talking forum, seeing as though you can't do anything but call names and bitch the entire time shitwipe.

All your post is doing is provoking him to do exactly what you did...

Just thought I'd point that out.

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:15 AM

How will it affect the very fabric of America?

Rowanda, mass genocide... as Americans we were expected to "protect" the victims of genocide... did we interfere? Hell no we didn't, simply because it wasn't in the "interests" of the nation. We didn't want to "waste" the manpower or money to help keep thousands of innocent women and children from being slaughtered. Wow, what a fabulous country we are.

Slavery, it was legal for HOW long?

How about the Native Americans who we stole our land from? They just gave it to us right?

If you're arguing against gay marriage because you're afraid of what it will do to such a "wonderful" country, I suggest you look at our country once again and realize what it really is.

VOL · 03-01-2004, 12:17 AM

Active I'm not sure but I think we finally have come to a mutual understanding.

Beebs · 03-01-2004, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Beebs:
Oh, and Birds can't talk, they can mimic speech but not understand its meaning.

What is mimicing speech? They know enough to where you can say 'What color?', and they say the color. That's not mimicing speech.[/quote]Thats getting closer to speech, and sounds interesting, where did you hear about it? The bird still has no concept of what the words mean.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
How will it affect the very fabric of America?

Rowanda, mass genocide... as Americans we were expected to "protect" the victims of genocide... did we interfere? Hell no we didn't, simply because it wasn't in the "interests" of the nation. We didn't want to "waste" the manpower or money to help keep thousands of innocent women and children from being slaughtered. Wow, what a fabulous country we are.

Slavery, it was legal for HOW long?

How about the Native Americans who we stole our land from? They just gave it to us right?

If you're arguing against gay marriage because you're afraid of what it will do to such a "wonderful" country, I suggest you look at our country once again and realize what it really is.

History is great. Now is now. I'm concerned with what can happen in the immediate future, specifically to MY children as a result.

I'm not arguing what it will do to the 'country'. I could care less.

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:
but 'marriage' is an idea that will effect everyone..

How?

Gay marriage is already legal in Canada...
and so is prostitution and some uses of marijuana...

In comparison, I don't nkow the exact figures, but Canada has a much much lower crime rate than the US... and a higher standard of living... lower death rate... wow... they're definately falling apart.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Beebs:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by AcTivE:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Beebs:
Oh, and Birds can't talk, they can mimic speech but not understand its meaning.

What is mimicing speech? They know enough to where you can say 'What color?', and they say the color. That's not mimicing speech.[/quote]Thats getting closer to speech, and sounds interesting, where did you hear about it? The bird still has no concept of what the words mean.[/quote]Discovery channel. If they are able to learn, do they not have the concept of 'understanding'??

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by AcTivE:
but 'marriage' is an idea that will effect everyone..

How?

Gay marriage is already legal in Canada...
and so is prostitution and some uses of marijuana...

In comparison, I don't nkow the exact figures, but Canada has a much much lower crime rate than the US... and a higher standard of living... lower death rate... wow... they're definately falling apart.[/quote]That is not what I'm saying, at all.

I did however say that if someone wanted to get married that was gay--go to another country. But when MY kids have to grow up in it, and I have to explain to them why it exists at such an early age...it's going to result in unneeded corruption.

Gays are free to go and get married elsewhere--I'm all up for it. But not here, because then I have to explain why it is accepted.

***I have nothing personally wrong with gay marriages. It's fine with me. If that's what you want to do--so be it. But I live in a country where other people's 'harmful' (harmful is determined by the receiver, so don't start that argument, fucker) actions don't have to effect me. And it will effect me, because it will effect how I have to bring up someone that is impressionable to everything they see and hear.

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:28 AM

Future:
Daddy, why is that Active guy such a bitch?

I don't know son, but it's bothering me, he should leave the country.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:34 AM

Jewlio, that's not an argument, and you know it isn't.

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:38 AM

You're absolutely right my friend. It was a satire of some sort. Very good.

Saint DH · 03-01-2004, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by Dr. Seuss:
That "floodgates" arguement that you keep sticking to is ridiculous. Last time I checked, both parties had to CONSENT to this whole marriage thing. Well, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that courts aren't just going to assume that a cocker spaniel consents to being married to a 92-year-old man. This whole "floodgate" shit is like saying because abortion is legal, soon murder will be, too.

You are a stupid motherfucker. My point to this whole "floodgates" thing (I didn't even give it the name "floodgates") is that shit like that could happen. Perhaps the animal example was a bit extreme, but not unreal. A more likely scenario would be a man saying that he was born polygamous-they need multiple wives-and they cannot live any other way than that. What if he has been living with 2 wives for 20 years and they've had a happy and healthy polygamous relationship, and they want to get married. ALL of them want to. God damn people.

edit:Hey Fruit, I'll go ahead and call anyone any name I god damn well please in any god damn thread I want to, so fuck off.

[ February 29, 2004, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: Dirty Harry ]

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:43 AM

Good point. I was just thinking about animal sex...you know where I'm headed

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:47 AM

Active:

You have to realize that you cannot shelter children from the realities in life. There are gay people and they are getting married.
Accept it.

Life is full of bullshit, and lots of things we hvae to do that we don't want to. Added to that list is the process of explaining to your child why Mr. And Mr. Brown live together. It really isn't that bad.

Jake · 03-01-2004, 12:48 AM

Active: Atleast I can admit to taking it in the ass......

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:50 AM

Hey now... them's fighting words and we all know Jake, you don't stand a chance in one.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
Active:

You have to realize that you cannot shelter children from the realities in life. There are gay people and they are getting married.
Accept it.

Life is full of bullshit, and lots of things we hvae to do that we don't want to. Added to that list is the process of explaining to your child why Mr. And Mr. Brown live together. It really isn't that bad.

I understand that point. However, I want them to be of age before they need to be faced with the realities of what I teach them as 'unacceptable'.

Legalized Gay Marriages will not help in this process.

Maybe I'm ignorant (and I'm sure this will be quoted) because I don't have kids that ask "Why is Mr. and Mr. Brown living together?"

I believe as a parent, I'd lie to them, until they just understood themselves what it really was. I don't want them to ask though--and me tell them, well Son, sometimes a man loves a man, and then he proceeds to stick his penis in the asshole of that man since he doesn't have a vagina, because he wants to show his love for that man.

I want to tell them the way that it SHOULD be, IN MY mind. Of course faggots are going to disagree with that, but women should have sex with men. Honestly now..

Beebs · 03-01-2004, 12:53 AM

Well you could leave out the part about anal sex.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Jake:
Active: Atleast I can admit to taking it in the ass......

I'll admit I've never had sex. I'll also admit that I like vagina, boobs and ass (female only).

Good point though--you really got me there.

At least I'm thinking you may have, I don't know, I'm trying to go from the viewpoint of a faggot--it's pretty cloudy, there's jizz all over my eyes and a dick up my ass. Not a very pretty picture.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Beebs:
Well you could leave out the part about anal sex.

what is it that we are talking about, beebs, i forget?

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 12:54 AM

You ever see a dog hump a man's leg?

That's how it SHOULD be... right? Since its nature and all...

silver and cold · 03-01-2004, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by VOL:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by silver and cold:
Ya know what, In that case, Im a hippy mother fucker too!
I have no problem with two men or two women getting married, it doesnt effect me!
So, start your bitching, lets hear it???

It will open the door to other things that will affect the very fabric of America. Can't you see that?[/quote]And seriously, we all know that all these people are gonna marry animals..and that gay marriges lead to the world coming to an end.

I just don't see why they dont deserve equal rights, they are humans too. And they are just as good as any other person.

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
You ever see a dog hump a man's leg?

That's how it SHOULD be... right? Since its nature and all...

Yes, I'd think so.

St. Anky · 03-01-2004, 01:00 AM

I know this is probably just going to get out of hand again, but I'm curious Active, why do you think homosexuality is wrong? And what would you do if your son asked you "why do i like boys?" instead of "why are those boys kissing each other?"

AcTivE · 03-01-2004, 01:02 AM

Yes, I think it is wrong.

Depends on what the age was of my kid. He probably wouldn't be asking that question if he felt pretty confident that what he was feeling was 'right' otherwise he wouldn't be asking it to begin with.

03-01-2004, 12:17 AM	#178 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Active I'm not sure but I think we finally have come to a mutual understanding.
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03-01-2004, 12:34 AM	#185 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Jewlio, that's not an argument, and you know it isn't.
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03-01-2004, 12:43 AM	#188 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Good point. I was just thinking about animal sex...you know where I'm headed
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03-01-2004, 01:02 AM	#200 (permalink)
AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	Yes, I think it is wrong. Depends on what the age was of my kid. He probably wouldn't be asking that question if he felt pretty confident that what he was feeling was 'right' otherwise he wouldn't be asking it to begin with.
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03-01-2004, 12:15 AM	#177 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	How will it affect the very fabric of America? Rowanda, mass genocide... as Americans we were expected to "protect" the victims of genocide... did we interfere? Hell no we didn't, simply because it wasn't in the "interests" of the nation. We didn't want to "waste" the manpower or money to help keep thousands of innocent women and children from being slaughtered. Wow, what a fabulous country we are. Slavery, it was legal for HOW long? How about the Native Americans who we stole our land from? They just gave it to us right? If you're arguing against gay marriage because you're afraid of what it will do to such a "wonderful" country, I suggest you look at our country once again and realize what it really is.

03-01-2004, 12:28 AM	#184 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	Future: Daddy, why is that Active guy such a bitch? I don't know son, but it's bothering me, he should leave the country.

03-01-2004, 12:38 AM	#186 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	You're absolutely right my friend. It was a satire of some sort. Very good.

03-01-2004, 12:47 AM	#189 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	Active: You have to realize that you cannot shelter children from the realities in life. There are gay people and they are getting married. Accept it. Life is full of bullshit, and lots of things we hvae to do that we don't want to. Added to that list is the process of explaining to your child why Mr. And Mr. Brown live together. It really isn't that bad.

03-01-2004, 12:48 AM	#190 (permalink)
Jake Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 148 Internets: 10	Active: Atleast I can admit to taking it in the ass......

03-01-2004, 12:50 AM	#191 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	Hey now... them's fighting words and we all know Jake, you don't stand a chance in one.

03-01-2004, 12:53 AM	#193 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Well you could leave out the part about anal sex.

03-01-2004, 12:54 AM	#196 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	You ever see a dog hump a man's leg? That's how it SHOULD be... right? Since its nature and all...

03-01-2004, 01:00 AM	#199 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	I know this is probably just going to get out of hand again, but I'm curious Active, why do you think homosexuality is wrong? And what would you do if your son asked you "why do i like boys?" instead of "why are those boys kissing each other?"