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f3lix · 07-30-2011, 03:46 PM

The House crushed Reid's plan (that wasn't voted on by the Senate). I love it. Repug, you used to be a Libertarian, but all that hippy shit in the Northwest has fucked with your mind. Come back to reality. We have to fix problems and the only way to do that is by saying NO! When a budget has 11 figures in it, there are serious problems when we can't simply remove less than 8% of it.

DDTempest · 07-30-2011, 06:47 PM

everything he said thus far is true f3lix, really looking forward to your new movie: Rise of the Planet of the Apes ... because you're a fucking chimp. You clearly never paid attention in government class as you have no fucking clue how congress works. The Republicans have vehemently denied any compromise including taxes being raised. The bulk of which is the bush tax cuts for the rich being suspended. If the House of Representatives is controlled by Republicans, and they don't want a bill to pass ... its not going to pass.

"Bambi" has put everything on the table as negotiable with the only condition being: INCOME HAS TO INCREASE.

Really I don't know why this is so difficult for the Republicans to understand, all they have to do is cut 40% of social welfare programs or 60% of military spending and the budget is balanced ... maybe use some tax increases to bridge that gap?

Your blithering has really shown how much you've half-assed this topic when it comes to reading anything that might educate you in the slightest.

Ugly Bastard · 07-30-2011, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDTempest

Yeah, there is a reason things are the way they are ... sadly the status quo is often the best we can do...

Society as we live in it now has evolved to the way it is. I really mean that in a very close comparative way to the genetic evolution of man.

Yea but the forces of those who dissent from the status quo are how society has evolved to reach this point.

f3lix · 07-31-2011, 12:26 AM

Income can decrease with CUTTING SPENDING. We do not need to tax every fucking time debt is owed; that's how we got into this mess. We tax every damn thing in this country. You get a paycheck? You pay taxes out your ass. You go to spend the money you made from your paycheck, you get sales tax. You decide to buy a house instead of rent, you pay property taxes. Your family member dies, you get estate tax. Your city wants a new stadium, everybody pays taxes to pay for the stadium, but those taxes don't go away when enough revenue has been raised to pay off the stadium. Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax. I'd like to keep the money I earned and have the choice to pay for social security. I don't want to and I don't want to get money when I'm 65 from the government. I don't want to be treated like I'm a child and need an allowance. Fuck that. I want what is mine, keep you damn hands out of my pockets.

thekremlin · 07-31-2011, 04:52 AM

You're just terrible.

angry pancake · 07-31-2011, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

Income can decrease with CUTTING SPENDING. We do not need to tax every fucking time debt is owed; that's how we got into this mess. We tax every damn thing in this country. You get a paycheck? You pay taxes out your ass. You go to spend the money you made from your paycheck, you get sales tax. You decide to buy a house instead of rent, you pay property taxes. Your family member dies, you get estate tax. Your city wants a new stadium, everybody pays taxes to pay for the stadium, but those taxes don't go away when enough revenue has been raised to pay off the stadium. Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax. I'd like to keep the money I earned and have the choice to pay for social security. I don't want to and I don't want to get money when I'm 65 from the government. I don't want to be treated like I'm a child and need an allowance. Fuck that. I want what is mine, keep you damn hands out of my pockets.

I'm trying to be polite here. But f3lix, you genuinely don't appear to have much knowledge in this area. As tempest mentioned, attempts to inform you on specific areas aren't going well. It's as if you refuse to see. It's really pointless going on with you on this topic.

DDTempest · 07-31-2011, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Bastard

Yea but the forces of those who dissent from the status quo are how society has evolved to reach this point.

Agree 100% ... this is why I included that singular word "often" ... every once in a while we are able to break the status quo just enough to progress forward bit by bit with the occasional earth shattering idea changing society as a whole.

Ugly Bastard · 07-31-2011, 08:01 PM

Sounds like rank and file republicans ready to cave. Boehner statement.

Ugly Bastard · 07-31-2011, 08:13 PM

The Republicans whined and bitched their way to what is actually a pretty good step towards their capitalist wet dream fantasy utopia.

f3lix · 07-31-2011, 11:58 PM

I'm very anxious to see how the tea party contingency votes on this

DDTempest · 08-01-2011, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f3lix

I'm very anxious to see how the tea party contingency votes on this

- - - ME TOO! - - -

Repugnant Abomination · 08-02-2011, 02:50 AM

The dems are pussies. They've always been pussies.

http://liberallamppost.com/2011/08/0...-to-save-face/

Thoughts?

angry pancake · 08-02-2011, 09:00 AM

They are pussies. Even when they can ram through legislation they frequently don't.

DDTempest · 08-02-2011, 09:03 AM

Democrats are not really a "party" ... Democrats are simply just "not republicans, and that is enough every couple of cycles. The republican party is starting to get a better taste of a divided base with the whole teaparty insurgency, but the democratic party is more an alliance of factions than a unified group.

angry pancake · 08-02-2011, 10:56 AM

I'm not exactly welcome at the County Republican Party any longer. The Republicans at the state and county level here have essentially driven off anyone who isn't to the right of Ghengis Kong. Unless you love Jesus and Rush Limbaugh equally as much as guns, and hate fags, and believe Obama is ineligible to be President, and that the founding fathers meant for this to be a christian country, and marijuana is the work of the devil and could be stopped if you just deport all of the mexicans, and all things can be solved with prayer, then you are a socialist and liberal.

Not kidding. When the local congress men would come in to talk to us, it was nothing more than liberal bashing. It took me a while to figure out who they meant by "liberal". For a long time I thought it was a made up bogey man or a synonymous term used for democrats. Apparently it's anybody who disagrees with even one point.

After listening to Joe Barton go on and on and on about making Obama a one term president based on him being ineligible under "natural born citizen" clause. I asked him "O.K., the birther strategy isn't going to work in 2012, what ideas do you have and what are you going to do in your next term?"

I can't really saying anything good about Obama right now. Other than bin Laden getting capped when he was on the clock, he's a darker and more eloquent Jimmy Carter. But jesus fuck, the republican seem to be running a complete strategy of campaigning on all levels of not being Obama. That may have worked in 1994 and again in 2010, but I'm not sure it works again in 2012.

Ugly Bastard · 08-02-2011, 12:57 PM

I have nothing but love for Joe Barton right now.

DJ FC · 08-02-2011, 04:13 PM

So the world starts going to hell when we start talking about this "debt ceiling issue." And it gets me thinking:

If we don't pass this raised debt ceiling and the US defaults what will happen to the US dollar: it will be crushed (russian accent).

If we do pass this debt ceiling increase what will happen to the US dollar: it will be crushed (russian accent).

So I bought Gold. It's not too late to get on the gold train everybody!

Saint DH · 08-02-2011, 05:19 PM

What do you think about gold mining companies, specifically EGO?

f3lix · 08-02-2011, 06:41 PM

We saw who the REAL Tea Party members are in that vote.

thekremlin · 08-03-2011, 02:51 AM

I'm calling "troll"

Repugnant Abomination · 08-03-2011, 03:22 AM

This whole thing is terribly depressing.

DJ FC · 08-03-2011, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

What do you think about gold mining companies, specifically EGO?

No idea.

thekremlin · 08-05-2011, 04:07 AM

THE BROKERS WITH HANDS ON THEIR FACES BLOG

angry pancake · 08-05-2011, 09:54 PM

S & P lowers U.S. credit rating to AA.

Am I the only person who really just doesn't give a fuck what the credit rating services think? To paraphrase the congressional hearings: "these are just our opinions and shouldn't be relied on."

S&P downgrades US credit rating from AAA - Yahoo! Finance

Awesome link above Krem.

Ugly Bastard · 08-05-2011, 11:11 PM

It will be strange to me if the markets care about this S&P downgrade. The info with which S&P decided to downgrade U.S. was same info everyone already knew. Why should their arbitrary decision to downgrade or maintain really matter in a vacuum?

08-02-2011, 02:50 AM	#112 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	The dems are pussies. They've always been pussies. http://liberallamppost.com/2011/08/0...-to-save-face/ Thoughts?
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08-02-2011, 04:13 PM	#117 (permalink)
DJ FC MURICAN Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 5,136 Internets: 253094	So the world starts going to hell when we start talking about this "debt ceiling issue." And it gets me thinking: If we don't pass this raised debt ceiling and the US defaults what will happen to the US dollar: it will be crushed (russian accent). If we do pass this debt ceiling increase what will happen to the US dollar: it will be crushed (russian accent). So I bought Gold. It's not too late to get on the gold train everybody!
	The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them.

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07-30-2011, 03:46 PM	#101 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	The House crushed Reid's plan (that wasn't voted on by the Senate). I love it. Repug, you used to be a Libertarian, but all that hippy shit in the Northwest has fucked with your mind. Come back to reality. We have to fix problems and the only way to do that is by saying NO! When a budget has 11 figures in it, there are serious problems when we can't simply remove less than 8% of it.

07-31-2011, 12:26 AM	#104 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Income can decrease with CUTTING SPENDING. We do not need to tax every fucking time debt is owed; that's how we got into this mess. We tax every damn thing in this country. You get a paycheck? You pay taxes out your ass. You go to spend the money you made from your paycheck, you get sales tax. You decide to buy a house instead of rent, you pay property taxes. Your family member dies, you get estate tax. Your city wants a new stadium, everybody pays taxes to pay for the stadium, but those taxes don't go away when enough revenue has been raised to pay off the stadium. Tax Tax Tax Tax Tax. I'd like to keep the money I earned and have the choice to pay for social security. I don't want to and I don't want to get money when I'm 65 from the government. I don't want to be treated like I'm a child and need an allowance. Fuck that. I want what is mine, keep you damn hands out of my pockets.

07-31-2011, 04:52 AM	#105 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	You're just terrible.

07-31-2011, 08:01 PM	#108 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Sounds like rank and file republicans ready to cave. Boehner statement.

07-31-2011, 08:13 PM	#109 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	The Republicans whined and bitched their way to what is actually a pretty good step towards their capitalist wet dream fantasy utopia.

07-31-2011, 11:58 PM	#110 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I'm very anxious to see how the tea party contingency votes on this

08-02-2011, 12:57 PM	#116 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	I have nothing but love for Joe Barton right now.

08-02-2011, 05:19 PM	#118 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,150 Internets: 284753	What do you think about gold mining companies, specifically EGO?

08-02-2011, 06:41 PM	#119 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	We saw who the REAL Tea Party members are in that vote.

08-03-2011, 02:51 AM	#120 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	I'm calling "troll"

08-03-2011, 03:22 AM	#121 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	This whole thing is terribly depressing.

08-05-2011, 04:07 AM	#123 (permalink)
thekremlin Don't call me Shirley Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,271 Internets: 220249	THE BROKERS WITH HANDS ON THEIR FACES BLOG

08-05-2011, 11:11 PM	#125 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	It will be strange to me if the markets care about this S&P downgrade. The info with which S&P decided to downgrade U.S. was same info everyone already knew. Why should their arbitrary decision to downgrade or maintain really matter in a vacuum?