Keep the downloading going...

[Titan]

Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
Because of things like Kazaa and EMule, I am more of a music fan today than I ever was back in the days when I bought CDs.

File-sharing certainly does have it's advantages. Ease of making mixes and hearing new artists. I wouldn't be a Muse fan if it weren't for file-sharing. That doesn't change the fact that file-sharing is flushing the quality of the industry and the industry itself down the tubes.

Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
I am 10 times more inclined to go see bands like the Foo Fighters, Audioslave, Audiovent, or Coldplay in concert now; whereas before, you'd be lucky if I could name one of their songs.

And that's why, more and more, you'll start paying hundreds of dollars to see bands you'd think you'd only have to pay $50 for. They have to make money somehow. Frankly, I'd rather just buy the music.

[ September 30, 2003, 12:27 PM: Message edited by: Titan ]

[Deep Kick]

File-sharing certainly does have it's advantages. Ease of making mixes and hearing new artists. I wouldn't be a Muse fan if it weren't for file-sharing. That doesn't change the fact that file-sharing is flushing the quality of the industry and the industry itself down the tubes.

Abso-fucking-lutely brilliant Titan. But fuck you anyway.

How often? How about very fucking often. Most of my music is that of bands which are unsigned and unsupported by anyone but themselves. By me downloading music of that band then discovering I like them and want to support them wrong? Hell no it's not, when in most cases the music is released by the band. Pull your head out of your ass and be more aware of the things going on in the world, not just the things you want to see.

Butcher Butcher Butcher... You don't fucking get it. What you just fucking wrote agrees completely with what I have been fucking saying? How can you be so fucking stupid as to not see that? There is NOTHING wrong with downloading a band, realizing that you fucking like them, and then going out and buying the fucking cd.

What is wrong is when people download music with the sole intent of getting something that costs money, for free.

Haha, It's funny how Indiana's conservatism has rubbed off on you. Guess what? I think abortion should be legal. Fuck you if you don't.

[ September 30, 2003, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: Deep Kick ]

[Ugly Bastard]

Deep Kick-

I just want you to know that I don't like you.

Thanks.

-Ugly Bastard

[Titan]

Originally posted by Deep Kick:
Abso-fucking-lutely brilliant Titan. But fuck you anyway.

Have you ever heard the term "desensitization"? The phrase "fuck you" isn't going to mean jack shit when you use it every time you say something to someone, especially after you just compliment them.

[ September 30, 2003, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Titan ]

[Deep Kick]

Oh really Ugly? Shit, that's going to put a monkey wrench in my plans to become best friends with you now isn't it.

Now Titan, you seem quasi-intelligent, so why don't you use some fucking logic. If I keep using "Fuck" indiscriminately, then I obviously don't fucking care if I have desensitized you or anyone else.

Fuck you.

[Titan]

Sorry, I was just trying to point out a major downfall in your posts. Continue being sub-par.

[Deep Kick]

Thanks for the heads-up dipshit. Continue being consdescending, and pretending that you are somehow superior to me. Fuckhead.

[Combat Chuck]

Or marginally mediocre. When I have more time, I'll post everything that everyone else has been trying to tell Deep Kick. Or maybe I'll just keep my distance and save myself the time. Probably that.

Cause there's not alot more to add. He's just an ignorant fuck. He has a point, but to an extent.

Ack, I gotta go do something productive with my time.

[buckeye]

Well on average i steal everything and anything i can get off the internet music, software, video games, movies, whatever. I basically have over 140 gigs on my hardrive consisting of that, plus countless cds. Will i ever stop? No. Do i feel bad, No. Will the RIAA be able to stop file sharing, hell no. If cd's wern't so expensive to begin with none of these file sharing progams would've popped up. Why would anyone go through the trouble of writing a program to steal something that was cheap anyways.

Next, has anyone ever thought about how the content ends up on the internet? Its not like one bastard goes out and pays $15 and shares it cause he's a nice guy. Its people within the music corporations, movie industry, etc, etc, that spread this stuff over the internet. How else can you explain a dvd appearing on the internet 4 months before it is released to the general public. Before they start taking the end users to court maybe they should look into the employees of their own company. All they are doing is cutting down the weed, and leaving the roots. If they are going to ever stop file sharing they are going to need to come up with a good idea to stop it, and its not going to be by lawsuits.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Deep Kick:
Continue being consdescending

Will do.

Originally posted by Deep Kick:
you are somehow superior to me.

I know.

Originally posted by buckeye:
Why would anyone go through the trouble of writing a program to steal something that was cheap anyways.

To make it free?

Originally posted by buckeye:
Next, has anyone ever thought about how the content ends up on the internet? Its not like one bastard goes out and pays $15 and shares it cause he's a nice guy. Its people within the music corporations, movie industry, etc, etc, that spread this stuff over the internet.

I guess that explains why bands like Linkin Park literally microwave their DAT tapes after each recording session.

[ September 30, 2003, 08:41 PM: Message edited by: Titan ]

[Deep Kick]

Or marginally mediocre. When I have more time, I'll post everything that everyone else has been trying to tell Deep Kick. Or maybe I'll just keep my distance and save myself the time. Probably that.

Cause there's not alot more to add. He's just an ignorant fuck. He has a point, but to an extent.

Ack, I gotta go do something productive with my time.

An igornant fuck, am I?

Apparently you fuckers still aren't getting my message. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE DOWNLOADING MUSIC, SO LONG AS PRODUCING ARTISTS GET COMPENSATED IN THE LONG RUN. Now, I agree it is ridiculous to have to buy a cd in order to sample the music on it. Therefore, I have no problem with people downloading a song or too, in order to see if they like it. The problem arises when someone takes a liking to a band, downloads a lot of the band's songs, but never gives the band a penny of compensation for their work. That my friends is pure fucking bullshit. Let me stress this again. I'm not against Kazaa, as I feel it is a fucking excellent way to sample music. What I am against is the use of Kazaa as a means to free music.

How is downloading a cd any less wrong than going into Sam Goody and stealing a cd? It isn't.

Now what is so ignorant about that? Bunch of cocksucking fuckheads

[Schroeder]

I think we're going to have to revamp the least liked member thread.

[Combat Chuck]

Originally posted by Deep Throat:

I'm not against Kazaa, as I feel it is a fucking excellent way to sample music. What I am against is the use of Kazaa as a means to free music.

I guess I can change my stance.

You're now an ignorant, contradicting fuck.

[Deep Kick]

Combat, your a fucking dipshit. Perhaps I misworded my first post in saying that I am against Kazaa. But, I would have thought that after posting my "anti-stealing" stance 4 fucking times, you would have realized that I am not against Kazaa as a means for sampling.

You are an idiot. A fucking idiot to be more exact.

[buckeye]

[quote]Originally posted by Titan:

I guess that explains why bands like Linkin Park literally microwave their DAT tapes after each recording session.

Well the microwave's must be malfunctioning, but either way the music is showing up on the internet before the actual release date, and even before the ship date.

http://www.fucktheinter.net/modules....rticle&sid=623

the album was released in stores the 25th

[Titan]

Yeah, it's sad that a band can't even microwave their own music without it leaking to the net. Fuck everyone. Record companies and music fans alike. And bands. And Ronald McDonald.

[ October 01, 2003, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: Titan ]

[Niger Angelus]

Yeah, I never liked him too much.

[Combat Chuck]

Originally posted by Deep Throat:

You are an idiot. A fucking idiot to be more exact.

Oh shit. I would have been fine with you calling me an idiot, but a fucking idiot? You've just crossed the line right there.

On a serious note though, how can you expect me or anyone to take you seriously when most of your stances contradict each other? The fact is, you've been ranting and raving against most of the people on here who actually support some of the points of your outlook on Kazaa and downloading this shit. However, since you tend to revise your stance to fit certain scenarios, we don't know exactly what you think or not.

Oh, and:

Next: Alpha

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Not if I was a band from an obscure town that never had been signed and recieved publicity through Kazaa and other music sharing programs such as thus. It's not stealing, it's sampling. It's just a musical version of Baskin Robbins via the internet.

How fucking often does this happen? Hardly-fucking-ever. And, supposing it does, do you go out and buy that band's cd then? If you answer yes, you are either a fucking liar, or a statistical anomaly.</font>[/quote]I guess I'm a statistical anomaly then. Here's my game plan. I search on the net for bands that have music styles that interest me, or are generating a buzz. Then I go onto Kazaa and I download 2 to 3 songs by this certain artist. If I like it, I tend to get the CD when the money arrives. If I don't like it, I delete it. There is no need for me to keep a song on the computer that I don't like.

Then, when I do get the CD, I delete the files that I had on the computer from that CD, becuase there's no reason for me to have those files since I now have the genuine authentic product.

There you have it.

Now please, stop making trite conjectures that you have no proof with which to back them up.

[ October 01, 2003, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: Combat Chuck ]

[Deep Kick]

Guess what? I do the exact same thing you do to find new music. BUT, the bands I find are typically not obscure bands. They are bands under a large label name, but that most people haven't heard of. For instance most of the bands under the Drive Thru Records lable aren't well known by a lot of people. I'm guessing they are more popular on nubblies, but still, in general they are not well known.

When I said that it was a fucking statisical anomaly, I was referring to garage bands, or bands that don't have a fucking large label. Typically their music isn't on Kazaa, and if it is, it's usually only supported by about 1kbs bandwidth, making it fucking annoying to download. And, it's hard to buy their cd unless they are local to you. In which case you wouldn't have to download them in order to hear them. I'm right bitch.

[ October 01, 2003, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: Deep Kick ]

[tonguegina]

Do you guys have a problem with video downloads? For instance, I have a shit load of music videos and entire series of some television shows that I've downloaded. There is no place to buy these things, and I'm not refusing to pay money...if they were available, I may. Is this wrong? For instance, Fastlane or Seinfeld...I only ask, because it wasn't specified in the title.

[Ugly Bastard]

Refusing to pay money is completely wrong. And tonguegina, you are completely wrong to say that these titles are not available.

Not only are they available, but they're completely pimp too.

Go here. Several titles available.

-Ugly Bastard

[tonguegina]

That doesn't count. They got what they have by downloading it. The money would only be going to them, not the people who actually made it.

[VOL]

I just read this thread and it makes me very happy that the Government can't hold us down.

[Orgazmo]

Originally posted by tonguegina:
That doesn't count. They got what they have by downloading it. The money would only be going to them, not the people who actually made it.

Then again, the people who you are buying it from did actually make the product. They're probably just taking a bit more of a rake than the normal dvd processing plant would.

[tonguegina]

I meant make the show or music video, not the product I would be buying. I could do the same thing if I wanted to. I choose not to.