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StabMaster Arson · 09-25-2003, 03:39 AM

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Sounds like a good time. Maybe someone will finally make good on this promise... GG Allin and Glen Benton of Deicide both let me down.

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[ September 25, 2003, 01:44 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]

Pliedes · 09-25-2003, 03:46 AM

Wow, thats a show I want to go to... good thing I have Kazaa

Combat Chuck · 09-25-2003, 04:02 AM

Pffttt....I went to an Incubus show where they were drinking blended rats....get a new shock tactic guys, cause you're washed up.

Or was that Hilary Duff? Can't rightly remember....

[ September 25, 2003, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: Combat Chuck ]

Pliedes · 09-25-2003, 04:10 AM

Is that because you were too stoned?

I continue to jest.

Orgazmo · 09-25-2003, 01:08 PM

Letting someone kill themself during your show may not be illegal...but fucking a cow is. Book 'em, Danno.

Ugly Bastard · 09-25-2003, 02:34 PM

That's actually sorta sad, that someone wants to kill themselves so bad, they're planning on doing it well in adavance, and probably won't back down.

-Ugly Bastard

ttbabe23 · 09-25-2003, 04:39 PM

that would be so weird... and its not illegal to do that. Wow that is messed up. But the person is terminally ill.

Saint DH · 09-25-2003, 05:00 PM

No, ttbabe, the person is not actually terminally ill. They just have a bad case of the flu. Can't say I blame them all that much though. The flu's a bitch.

Osiris · 09-25-2003, 05:30 PM

ttbabe23, since when are you a legal expert?

A suicide would be pretty bitching to see, but what are they gonna do after the person kills themself? Just let the body lay there while they play a few more songs?

ttbabe23 · 09-25-2003, 07:43 PM

i just was not sure if they would have to deal with any leagal stuff

Niger Angelus · 09-25-2003, 09:20 PM

That is a good question, I am sure they will do something to continue with the whole 'dignity' issue.

silver and cold · 09-25-2003, 09:26 PM

I'm not sure what I would do there. That's not something you see every day.
I've seen someone kill them self before, but never in a public place like that!

Niger Angelus · 09-25-2003, 11:30 PM

And who did you watch kill themself?

the_butcher · 09-26-2003, 01:43 AM

Wow. This is fucking crazy. The fact that these guys are actually wanting to help this guy out. He must really be in hell on earth. Ha, I crack shit up. Anyways, I think that all of those guys are fucking hardasses. HARDASSES.

Schroeder · 09-26-2003, 02:46 PM

You guys would actually want to see somebody just right there in front of you end it all? I certainly wouldn't.

Also, what's the deal with the euthanasia guy? In the article he thanks God for giving him the oppurtunity to do this. But he's such a hypocrite, by killing himself, he turns his back to God.

How is suicide dying with dignity? Suicide is an easy-out, a cheap escape. It would be much more dignified to live out his life, regardless of how long that would be, until God decided it's his time.

[ September 26, 2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Schroeder ]

Saint DH · 09-26-2003, 03:25 PM

I'd have to admit...it is kind of a pussy way out. At the same time it's kind of like a super hardass way out. I mean seriously, it takes some balls to kill yourself. I don't mean small balls either, I mean huge fucking bowling ball nuts. I would know b/c I've killed myself three times.

silver and cold · 09-26-2003, 05:37 PM

Niger, It was a freinds parent.

Combat Chuck · 09-26-2003, 06:02 PM

You actually watched this happen? Man, that's scarring shit.

silver and cold · 09-26-2003, 06:05 PM

Yeah that's the kinda shit that stays in the back of your head for a while. I couldn't imagine what I would have done, if it would have been my mom!

Wayne · 09-26-2003, 06:56 PM

How'd they kill themself, Silver?

silver and cold · 09-26-2003, 11:49 PM

ODed, It wasn't like shooting them self of anything, but when you knew they were doing drugs, then had a a seisure(sp?) then boom! She was gone.

StabMaster Arson · 09-27-2003, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by Schroeder:
You guys would actually want to see somebody just right there in front of you end it all?

Yes.

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Also, what's the deal with the euthanasia guy? In the article he thanks God for giving him the oppurtunity to do this. But he's such a hypocrite, by killing himself, he turns his back to God.

Perhaps that's where your god and his god differ. Since when are you in any position to call someone else a hypocrite?

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How is suicide dying with dignity? Suicide is an easy-out, a cheap escape. It would be much more dignified to live out his life, regardless of how long that would be, until God decided it's his time.

How dignified is it to live a life of misery with absolutely no hope of it EVER getting better. How dignified is it to watch your body atrophy to the point where you can't execute the simplist of activities, much less control the most basic functions.

Would I watch this man kill himself? Yes.
Would I enjoy it immensely? Of course.
Would I feel guilty about enjoying it? Hell no.

[ September 27, 2003, 12:59 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]

Schroeder · 09-27-2003, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by StabMaster Arson:
How dignified is it to live a life of misery with absolutely no hope of it EVER getting better. How dignified is it to watch your body atrophy to the point where you can't execute the simplist of activities, much less control the most basic functions.

I think it is much more impressive to endure the disease or condition than to just give up and kill yourself. Regardless of whether you are a vegetable or not, you didn't fold. Suicide is letting the disease beat you, letting the disease win. To see that someone would go through so much just to fill out God's plans, that is dignified. To fight every day, even if there is no chance of winning, at least you fought. You didn't give up or give in. You didn't run away from the war. You died in battle. What more dignified death is there than that?

StabMaster Arson · 09-27-2003, 04:31 AM

Scrote, I don't think anyone would choose to live or die to impress you. Some would argue that the disease has already won when you're laying in bed unable to do anything but wait to die. By choosing when and how you want to go, you're winning by going on your own terms.

If you take your god out of the equation, this may be easier to understand.

sidenote: it's really hard to take you seriously when there's such an obvious error in your sig line

[ September 27, 2003, 02:35 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]

Schroeder · 09-27-2003, 01:24 PM

What gives a person the right to decide when they should die? No one did anything to deserve this life, and no one deserves to decide when it ends. God has a plan for everybody. When He wants you to go, you'll go.

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Originally posted by StabMaster Arson:
your god

That's your God and my God and everybody elses.

09-25-2003, 03:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
StabMaster Arson Roscoe P. Coldchain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stabbin Cabin Posts: 2,759 Internets: 1425	Article Sounds like a good time. Maybe someone will finally make good on this promise... GG Allin and Glen Benton of Deicide both let me down. band site [ September 25, 2003, 01:44 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]
	LEGALIZE CRIME!

09-25-2003, 04:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
ttbabe23 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow Posts: 147 Internets: 10	that would be so weird... and its not illegal to do that. Wow that is messed up. But the person is terminally ill.
	just do it ok...

09-25-2003, 07:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
ttbabe23 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow Posts: 147 Internets: 10	i just was not sure if they would have to deal with any leagal stuff
	just do it ok...

09-25-2003, 09:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	That is a good question, I am sure they will do something to continue with the whole 'dignity' issue.
	I enjoy knives and fire.

09-25-2003, 09:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	I'm not sure what I would do there. That's not something you see every day. I've seen someone kill them self before, but never in a public place like that!
	the killer in me is the killer in you.

09-25-2003, 03:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	Wow, thats a show I want to go to... good thing I have Kazaa

09-25-2003, 04:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	Pffttt....I went to an Incubus show where they were drinking blended rats....get a new shock tactic guys, cause you're washed up. Or was that Hilary Duff? Can't rightly remember.... [ September 25, 2003, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: Combat Chuck ]

09-25-2003, 04:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	Is that because you were too stoned? I continue to jest.

09-25-2003, 01:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,732 Internets: 311447	Letting someone kill themself during your show may not be illegal...but fucking a cow is. Book 'em, Danno.

09-25-2003, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	That's actually sorta sad, that someone wants to kill themselves so bad, they're planning on doing it well in adavance, and probably won't back down. -Ugly Bastard

09-25-2003, 05:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,150 Internets: 284753	No, ttbabe, the person is not actually terminally ill. They just have a bad case of the flu. Can't say I blame them all that much though. The flu's a bitch.

09-25-2003, 05:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Osiris Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 205 Internets: 10	ttbabe23, since when are you a legal expert? A suicide would be pretty bitching to see, but what are they gonna do after the person kills themself? Just let the body lay there while they play a few more songs?

09-25-2003, 11:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	And who did you watch kill themself?
	I enjoy knives and fire.

09-26-2003, 01:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
the_butcher Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: ::: the recesses of my mind ::: Posts: 1,023 Internets: 10	Wow. This is fucking crazy. The fact that these guys are actually wanting to help this guy out. He must really be in hell on earth. Ha, I crack shit up. Anyways, I think that all of those guys are fucking hardasses. HARDASSES.
	\| bite the bullet and swallow lead \|

09-26-2003, 02:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Schroeder Unwanted Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,543 Internets: -885	You guys would actually want to see somebody just right there in front of you end it all? I certainly wouldn't. Also, what's the deal with the euthanasia guy? In the article he thanks God for giving him the oppurtunity to do this. But he's such a hypocrite, by killing himself, he turns his back to God. How is suicide dying with dignity? Suicide is an easy-out, a cheap escape. It would be much more dignified to live out his life, regardless of how long that would be, until God decided it's his time. [ September 26, 2003, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: Schroeder ]

09-26-2003, 03:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,150 Internets: 284753	I'd have to admit...it is kind of a pussy way out. At the same time it's kind of like a super hardass way out. I mean seriously, it takes some balls to kill yourself. I don't mean small balls either, I mean huge fucking bowling ball nuts. I would know b/c I've killed myself three times.

09-26-2003, 05:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	Niger, It was a freinds parent.
	the killer in me is the killer in you.

09-26-2003, 06:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
Combat Chuck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,063 Internets: 10	You actually watched this happen? Man, that's scarring shit.

09-26-2003, 06:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	Yeah that's the kinda shit that stays in the back of your head for a while. I couldn't imagine what I would have done, if it would have been my mom!
	the killer in me is the killer in you.

09-26-2003, 06:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Wayne Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 29 Internets: 1933	How'd they kill themself, Silver?
	I'm the meanest god damned son of a bitch alive.

09-26-2003, 11:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
silver and cold Ish... Join Date: May 2003 Location: this nowhere Posts: 1,680 Internets: 10	ODed, It wasn't like shooting them self of anything, but when you knew they were doing drugs, then had a a seisure(sp?) then boom! She was gone.
	the killer in me is the killer in you.

09-27-2003, 04:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
StabMaster Arson Roscoe P. Coldchain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stabbin Cabin Posts: 2,759 Internets: 1425	Scrote, I don't think anyone would choose to live or die to impress you. Some would argue that the disease has already won when you're laying in bed unable to do anything but wait to die. By choosing when and how you want to go, you're winning by going on your own terms. If you take your god out of the equation, this may be easier to understand. sidenote: it's really hard to take you seriously when there's such an obvious error in your sig line [ September 27, 2003, 02:35 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]
	LEGALIZE CRIME!