Indiana to Join The DST'ers

[Orgazmo]

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Indiana passes daylight-saving time bill

INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana (AP) -- When 47 states move their clocks forward an hour next April to observe daylight-saving time, all of Indiana is expected to join them for the first time in decades.

The Indiana House voted late Thursday to approve a bill mandating the historic time change, sending the bill to Gov. Mitch Daniels, who lobbied extensively for the proposal and is sure to sign it.

House Speaker Brian Bosma called the 51-46 decision one of the most "heroic" votes in his 20 years in the General Assembly.

"I can tell you that the rest of the nation, the rest of the world, knows that Indiana doesn't get it," Bosma said. "Now is the day to tell the rest of the world that we are willing to step into the 21st century."

Proponents of the measure, who failed to win passage of the bill earlier in the day, cheered wildly after it passed. The law would take effect next April, when all states except most of Arizona and all of Hawaii observe the time change.

Lawmakers had voted 49-48 against the bill earlier in the day, but that vote did not kill the legislation because it takes a constitutional majority of 51 votes to pass or defeat a bill outright.

Then, shortly before midnight, a freshman state representative who just a few weeks ago vowed to oppose the measure switched sides to provide the 51st vote.

Republican state Rep. Troy Woodruff said he changed his vote because the issue had become too partisan, and he wanted to move on to bigger matters such as the two-year state budget. He said he was prepared to explain his actions to constituents, many of whom had opposed adopting daylight-saving time.

"Some things are more important than re-election," he said.

Efforts to make the switch have failed more than two dozen times since most of the state's 92 counties opted out of the time change under state and federal legislation passed in the early 1970s.

Daniels pushed hard for the bill. Dozens of businesses and their lobbying groups also backed the bill, saying the current system causes mix-ups over airline flights, delivery times and conference calls.

Seventy-seven counties in the Eastern time zone portion of Indiana remain on standard time year round, while five in southeastern Indiana ignore state and federal law and change their clocks. Five counties each in the northwest and southwest pockets of the state are in the Central zone and observe daylight time.

The legislation requires that Daniels and the General Assembly petition the U.S. Department of Transportation, which regulates times zones, to hold hearings to determine if more Indiana counties should be moved to the Central zone.

The request would have to be made within days of Daniels' signing the bill. He has said the hearing process could begin within months.

Opponents of the bill cited several reasons for voting against it. Among other things, some said most of their constituents were against the change, and some doubted it would do much if anything to improve the economy.

"This is not the second coming that is going to take Indiana into the a brighter future," Democratic state Rep. William Crawford said.

[AcTivE]

Originally posted by Orgazmo:
"This is not the second coming that is going to take Indiana into the a brighter future," Democratic state Rep. William Crawford said.

haha, yes it is!

[ April 29, 2005, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]

[Beebs]

Fuck DST...the Earth does not stop spinning for an hour at any point in time, it makes no fucking sense.

[Ironic Mustache]

So up until now, Indiana would just arrogantly snub the rest of the country? I'm amazed that this didn't pass earlier. The confusion must be terrible on that day.

[Beebs]

Why would it be confusing? All you have to do is nothing. And I still would like to point out the earth does not stop spinning for an hour.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Ironic Mustache:
The confusion must be terrible on that day.

Trying to figure out what time shows are supposed to come on is fucking ridiculous. Thank god we're joining everyone else.

[Ugly Bastard]

Originally posted by Ironic Mustache:
The confusion must be terrible on that day.

Actually it's simple as shit. Twice a year when you have to go through and change every clock in your God damn life, we do nothing. Nothing. It's wonderful. The only thing that's really an adjustment is what time TV shows come on ('cause we switch time zones by not fucking with our clocks). Yes.

-Ugly Bastard

[MAGICLIT]

its 3:37 in vegas right now.......do you know where your children are?????????

[Ironic Mustache]

I meant its confusing for the rest of the country who needs to fly into the state or leave the state.

I didn't even know you guys didn't partake.

[Beebs]

The main reason is that we don't (besides DST being a bunch of make believe) is that 4 of our 6 "urban" areas border other states, Gary and Evansville are better suited with Central time, South Bend/Elkhart (near Michigan) and Jeffersonville/New Albany (near Louisville) are better off with Eastern.

[ April 29, 2005, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Beebs ]

[Ironic Mustache]

"Energy use and the demand for electricity for lighting our homes is directly connected to when we go to bed and when we get up. Bedtime for most of us is late evening through the year. When we go to bed, we turn off the lights and TV.

In the average home, 25 percent of all the electricity we use is for lighting and small appliances, such as TVs, VCRs and stereos. A good percentage of energy consumed by lighting and appliances occurs in the evening when families are home. By moving the clock ahead one hour, we can cut the amount of electricity we consume each day.

Studies done in the 1970s by the U.S. Department of Transportation show that we trim the entire country's electricity usage by about one percent EACH DAY with Daylight Saving Time."

-http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html

[ April 29, 2005, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Ironic Mustache ]

Best Scenerio: Everybody stops using DST.

2nd Best Scenerio: Indiana Joins everybody else and starts using DST

3rd Best Scenerio: Indiana Keeps Current System (No DST)

Originally posted by Beebs:
The main reason is that we don't (besides DST being a bunch of make believe) is that 4 of our 6 "urban" areas border other states, Gary and Evansville are better suited with Central time, South Bend/Elkhart (near Michigan) and Jeffersonville/New Albany (near Louisville) are better off with Eastern.

Are you sure this is even an issue?

Wont Gary and Evensville continue to be on Central Time?

[Calamity Jane]

Why do we need DST anyway??

Wouldn't it just be more convenient to never have to change the time on your clock?

Everyone else should just get rid of daylight savings time.

[ April 29, 2005, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: Calamity Jane ]

[Beebs]

[quote]Originally posted by DJ FC:

Are you sure this is even an issue?

Wont Gary and Evensville continue to be on Central Time?

Well the whole state will probably go central, except for the Louisville border.

And I'm aware of the tree-humper fuel crises rationale, but it doesn't change the fact that time doesn't actually stand still.

[Calamity Jane]

I think I'm going to protest and just never change my clock.

I never saw the logic behind it anyway.

[ April 29, 2005, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: Calamity Jane ]

Hmmmm...

[ April 29, 2005, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: DJ FC ]

[sim_flex_x]

Originally posted by Beebs:
Fuck DST...the Earth does not stop spinning for an hour at any point in time, it makes no fucking sense.

I completely agree. I never understood the point.

I can actually see the logic behind it.

We don't divide our days evenly IE we tend to get up later and stay awake longer. If everybody woke up at 4am and went to bed at 8pm, then DST would have no benefits.

However, a lot of "daylight" is wasted in the morning so if you can convince people to change their daily schedules to use more morning daylight and use less energy at night, then we become more efficient with our energy consumption. And what better way to convince people to wake up early than to trick them by switching the time.

But

The real question becomes is the energy saved really worth all the beurocracy and inefficiencies involved with swtiching times. Are we really facing an energy crisis? I would suggest the answer to be "No" to both questions.

[Ugly Bastard]

I understand the "logic" behind it, but I think it's bullshit. They move the clocks back an hour so people don't piss the sunlight away while sleeping - but people do that on purpose.

If we had to move our clocks back 5 hours thus making me wake up at what is now 7 am, and go to bed at what is now midnight - I wouldn't do it. I'd just continue to sleep until noon, and stay up all night. I don't understand why Daylight Savings is supposed to be this miracle cure for sleeping during the day. I like sleeping away half the day and staying up late at night. Most other people do too. Fuck DST!

!

-Ugly Bastard

[Repugnant Abomination]

Are you fucking kidding me!? LoL

[Mr. Blonde]

I have no idea what you guys are talking about in the past few posts.

So what do you propose we do?

I mean I could walk through life and mention all the things I didn't know, or I could not be a pussy and ask questions.

[Ironic Mustache]

I wishI was eating taco bell right now. Seriously.