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Rampage vs Wandy Like most, I was concerned with where Rampage's head was: dropping the belt to Forest, his mental meltdown, changing camps, and two previous knockouts to Silva made me doubt his psyche. I thought Wand simply had his number. I was wrong. A lot has already been made of Wand's slopping boxing, so I won't dwell too much on it. I think the reason Rampage won this fight is that his boxing has improved a tremendous amount; his short, crisp punches are the perfect counter to Wand's wide, wild punching style. Outside of that though I think there were several factors working against Wand. I'll probably get flamed for some of this, but it's what I think, so take it as you will. For one, Wand is undersized for lhw. In his Pride days, like it or not, he beat up on a lot of fighters who were even smaller than him; less physically imposing at the very least. I honestly believe he was taking steroids too, since they didn't test for it in Japan, and that played a big part in it. He was physically more imposing than a lot of his competition, and it allowed him to fight so aggressively, basically bullying other fighters. I really don't want to diminish Wand's accomplishments though. 6 years on top a a huge accomplishment no matter what, and he did beat some very skilled fighters who weren't undersized, but I think the quality of his competition wasn't always consistently high. Now that he's fighting in the UFC where he is a bit smaller than his opponents and doesn't have the same roid rage going for him, he is falling prey to superior technique. Obviously I can't prove Wand was taking steroids, but I think it's a reasonable assumption. At this point I think Wand still has a place in the UFC, despite the losses piling up. I think he's taken too much damage and is too far into his career to really change his style and make a serious run for the belt, but there are compelling fights for him, and he could be the perfect gate keeper for the division. As for Rampage, I'm really impressed with his growth. Unlike Silva, he's evolved as a fighter. I think he'll be the champ again in 09 and hold on to the belt for a while. Mir vs Nog This was just as epic as Couture beating Chuck in their first fight. Nobody thought Mir could beat Nog, not even Mir. Like Couture, I don't think anyone predicted Mir out striking Nog. But what impressed me most was the intelligence Mir fought with. How many fights have we seen where a fighter rocks his opponent and then drops down into his guard and his opponent recovers? Mir would knock Nog down, flurry to see if he could finish him, then seeing he couldn't, wisely stood back up. Why can't more fighters do that? Nog, for as great as he is, is clearly on the decline - he's just taken too much damage. Sometimes I have to remind myself that he's only 32 given how his face looks. And I don't want to take away from Mir's performance, because it was great, but Nog isn't the same. I still think he's a top 5 heavyweight, and would probably beat Lesnar and maybe Couture right now, but his best days are behind him. If Fedor is the greatest HW of all time though than Nog is #2 for the foreseeable future. I predict Mir will beat Lesnar in their rematch and I look forward to him defending the belt and building his legacy. After how much personal tragedy he had to endure I can't help but be happy for him. Forest vs Rashad I thought Forest would be too big for Rashad, but I was wrong. Rashad seems to have that same smoothness that Anderson does when he fights - it's almost as if he's dancing out there, gliding from one punch to the next. After being skeptical of him for a long time I can finally say that he is definitely the real deal. I think he's a smart fighter too and will continue to round out his game, instead of being happy where he's at and complacent. Forest is still a high quality fighter. The problem with him is that he isn't great at anything. Even if he does make another run and capture the belt I have a difficult time seeing him ever defending it for a long period of times like a Hughes or a Wandy. With that said, I think he can potentially be champion again if he keeps developing. He's a nice, big lhw, he fights smart and he has enormous heart. Also, other lhw's need to take note of how effective he is with those leg kicks. We all saw what Sakuraba did to Royce. Well, that's about it. I'm really looking forward to mma in 09. Thanks for reading. Oh, and just in case you're wondering, I'm picking gsp over penn. Hopefully Penn will drop back down to 155 afterwards and own the division for a long, long time. |
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G'd up from the feet up.
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Rampage and Wandy...
Wanderlei has looked like shit in his last two fights. I think his shoddy boxing has finally been exposed. Who knew it would be the lack of ropes that would do it? Mir vs Nog I lost ten bucks on this fight. How in the fuck those shots hurt Nog worse than the ones he took from Fedor, I will never know. Forest vs. Rashad I bet against Forest whenever possible. He bores the shit out of me and I was glad to finally see him lose. I agree with you about GSP. |
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Creeping around as I please nonchalantly like any other Supreme Emperor might.
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I make bad decisions.
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Rampage VS Wandy- Agree that Wandy has looked like shit past couple fights. He hasn't been the same for a while.
Mir VS Nog- Mir looked good this fight. As you stated he fought very smart regarding keep standing Nog up as he was completely dominating the stand-up. Looking forward to the Mir/Lesnar rematch. Griffin VS Evans- I hated to see Griffin lose as I'm a fan. As you stated though, Evans is the real deal, he is smooth out there and just impressive overall. Looking forward to a Rampage/Griffin rematch. Other thoughts- When are we going to see Congo take on decent opponent? All that dude does is knock people out. Hes got some work to do overall, but I think he could eventually mature into a real contender as there isn't a whole lot going on in the HW division. |
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I don't think Kongo will ever be champ. His take down defense isn't good enough to stop a guy like Brock or Randy. Even Nog and Mir would get him down eventually and tap him. I see him as a solid gate keeper to the division though. Hopefully he proves me wrong.
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Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck
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It really sucked to watch Wanderlei lose, he is/was one of my favorite fighters. I think his days are numbered in the UFC. They will probably give him another shot at a bigger named 205. I could see a rematch with Chuck with the loser pretty much easing there way out of the UFC. I don't see Wanderlei winning that fight.
I was shocked to see how Mir dominated Nog but I still see Lesnar winning the rematch and dominating the HWT division until somebody gets Fedor to fight him. I called it a while back that Lesnar would be one of the best HWT's in the world in no time and I'm standing by that statement. Damn Rashad Evans is quick. So smooth in the octagon his swagger when he fights is awesome. I still think he loses to Rampage at some point but he is the real deal. GSP > Penn, To much strength for BJ. |
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There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two.
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I think Kongo can stand and fight with anyone the the UFC HW division. He is an incredible striker.
I was sad to see Forest lose, but Evans is extremely talented. I thought Griffin was controlling the fight until he got caught. He never really hurt Evans, but Evan's strikes def. put a hurting on Griffin. Mir is cocky, but if he beats Lesner again, and I think he will, then he has a right to be. He did look fat and out of shape, and in a 5 round war, he will gas. UFC 92 was an incredible PPV. I can only hope 09' can follow up with the great year this has been! |
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Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.
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Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck
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They need to match him up with one of the 205 contenders or have GSP bump up to fight him. If Wandy were to beat Rich Franklin (fingers crossed) I could see him dropping to 185 to fight Anderson, there is reported bad blood between the two.
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There's life and then there is Cubs baseball, it's a chore to seperate the two.
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Didn't see the fight, but read quite a bit about it. Heard it was brutal to watch. Is it possible that Silva is getting bored with the competition they continue to feed him? He only has a few fights left on his contract, which he said he was going to retire after he completed his contract. Him vs. GSP would have more validaty if GSP hadn't cheated in his last fight vs. Penn.
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Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.
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Emperor Meow
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dont read this!(cuz it really wrks), u will get kissed on the nearest friday by the love of ur life. tomorrow will be the best day of ur life however if you dont post ths comment on at least 3 threads u will die within 2 days now uv started readin this dont stop
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#YOLO
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