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Unread 08-25-2006, 05:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm going to find out about it.

Most interesting thing I've found out so far--this Hubbard dude--that basically invented "Scientology"...is a science fiction writer.

Here is a quote from the review of a pice of Blue Sky that is funny..

"gotta say it's a hoot that there are actual scientologists posting one star reviews on this book! Way to go guys, why not order a couple of dozen copies of Battlefield Earth while you are here!"

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OMFG NO WAY!!!!111

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Unread 08-29-2006, 11:57 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think the sarasm was implied Blonde.

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I don't think that it was. Of course, now he'll try to defend it and say that it was, now that he sees he can easily deceive those who aren't very apt at internet semantics.

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Unread 08-30-2006, 01:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Save me the drugstore psychology your mom tells you, okay? You wanna help? Why don't you go get me a 7-up...because i might get vulnerable again.

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I propose that all scientologists are gay

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Church of Scientology of Arizona (Phoenix)
4045 N 7th St., Suite 300
Phoenix, AZ 85014
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Phone: 602-954-1417

This is right by where I work. I think i'm going to stop by on my lunch break and see if there isn't some convention I can go to and infiltrate this shit and see how far I can get. What do you guys think?

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"There is a huge Church of Spiritual Technology symbol carved into the ground at Scientology's Trementina Base that is visible from the air.[76] Washington Post reporter Richard Leiby wrote, "Former Scientologists familiar with Hubbard’s teachings on reincarnation say the symbol marks a 'return point' so loyal staff members know where they can find the founder'
’s works when they travel here in the future from other places in the universe.

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fucking crazy.

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Unread 01-12-2008, 02:58 AM   #38 (permalink)
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So I crawl out of bed to check nubblies real quick (we call that dedication, people) and I see this. Here is what I say:

Blonde, I love this idea, fucking love it! Now we have someone who can really follow through. But some words of caution...

Scientologists don't fuck around. This is a cult, and a very well run one. Just do some youtube searches to see how well oiled this machine is. They have a rule called "fair game" in which if they find out you're fucking with them, or you leave the church, they essentially go about destroying your life. It's really no joke.

I would like to suggest we move this entire thread to the elite forum, where it is away from the eyes of the unknown. That may sound a bit paranoid, and maybe it is, but Scientology does a very thorough background check on people, because they want to be able to black mail them and other shit if necessary. It's all about leverage for them. I wouldn't even give them your real name. Also, don't try to get fancy and take secret pictures or record something on your phone - you'll get shut down in a hurry and then our chance to learn about the inner workings will be ruined. You might even want to consider getting a fake identity to present to them if asked.

The main hurdle though, is that this church is all about money. I don't think you'll be able to advance without forking out cash that you don't have. But let's take it one step at a time.
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seriously though, i think it would be really interesting to find out about, even if it's only going to a few meetings and shit...shit it would give me something to do around here

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also, if they start ruining your life you can just move back to indiana, not too many scigists here. then again moving back to indiana might mean your life is already ruined depending on your perspective

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3:1 Blonde falls for it and starts defending Scientology within a year.
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I highly suggest you guys watch it before it gets taken down, which it probably will.

Apparently a bunch of hackers have started a coalition attacking Scientology, and I really think it has the potential to turn ugly. Here is the text of an email going around.


"Hello, Scientology. We are Anonymous.
Over the years, we have been watching you. Your campaigns of misinformation; suppression of dissent; your litigious nature, all of these things have caught our eye. With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who trust you, who call you leader, has been made clear to us. Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind–for the laughs–we shall expel you from the Internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form. We acknowledge you as a serious opponent, and we are prepared for a long, long campaign. You will not prevail forever against the angry masses of the body politic. Your methods, hypocrisy, and the artlessness of your organization have sounded its death knell.
You cannot hide; we are everywhere.
We cannot die; we are forever. We're getting bigger every day–and solely by the force of our ideas, malicious and hostile as they often are. If you want another name for your opponent, then call us Legion, for we are many.
Yet for all that we are not as monstrous as you are; still our methods are a parallel to your own. Doubtless you will use the Anon's actions as an example of the persecution you have so long warned your followers would come; this is acceptable. In fact, it is encouraged. We are your SPs.
Gradually as we merge our pulse with that of your "Church", the suppression of your followers will become increasingly difficult to maintain. Believers will wake, and see that salvation has no price. They will know that the stress, the frustration that they feel is not something that may be blamed upon Anonymous. No–they will see that it stems from a source far closer to each. Yes, we are SPs. But the sum of suppression we could ever muster is eclipsed by that of the RTC.
Knowledge is free.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us."

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Web vigilantes attack Scientology website
Hackers have mounted a wave of attacks against the Church after it tried to take down a leaked video of Tom Cruise
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A shadowy internet group has succeeded in taking down a Scientology website after effectively declaring war on the Church and calling for it to be destroyed.

The group, which goes by the name of Anonymous, is a disparate collection of hackers and activists. It called for a wave of attacks against Scientology after accusing the Church of "campaigns of misinformation" and "suppression of dissent." At least one Scientology website was still down this morning.

The group also claims to have stolen a number of "secret documents" from the Church's database, which it says are now circulating on file-sharing networks.

A spokesman for the Church of Scientology, which appears to have resurrected some sites, was quoted as saying that the Church was not the "right target" for such attacks. "These types of people have got some wrong information about us," the spokesman said.
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Anonymous, which has spearheaded attacks against other websites in the past, called on its members to rise up against the Church after a video of Tom Cruise - one of the most high-profile Scientologists - leaked on the internet last week.

The video, in which the Hollywood actor was seen extolling the virtues of Scientology, was reportedly taken down from some sites after the Church claimed that it violated copyright.

In response, the group - which calls itself an "internet hate machine" - set up a website to co-ordinate a string of attacks using phone, internet and fax methods, which it called 'Project Chanology'.

The website asked members to bombard the Church's website with hits so that it would collapse - a technique known as a 'denial of service' attack, as well as exploit to vulnerabilities in the site using sophisticated hacking techniques.

Anonymous also encouraged members to harass the Church with phone calls, send so-called 'black faxes' to use up ink, and use a method called 'Google bombing', where the word 'Scientology' is linked to other terms such as 'dangerous' and 'cult' so that people entering the search term 'scientology' get skewed results.

In a video posted on YouTube, which has now been watched more than 600,000 tiomes, the group says: "With the leakage of your latest propaganda video into mainstream circulation, the extent of your malign influence over those who have come to trust you as leaders has been made clear to us.

"Anonymous has therefore decided that your organisation should be destroyed, for the good of your followers, for the good of mankind, and for our own enjoyment.

"We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us."

Security experts monitoring the attacks said that the Church's servers were not likely to suffer for more than a couple of days, and that the attacks were "amateur by hacking standards."

"It's a bit like the internet equivalent of kicking in a phone box," one said. "It's not that professional. In the forums where they're discussing it, some are wondering whether it will be possible to trace what they're doing."

The Church of Scientology, which is known for being litigious, has always vigorously defended itself in the wake of attack, and points to the free choice of adults who join, as well as its efforts to help people with criminal records.

A spokesman was not immediately available for comment



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good recap for everyone about what's going on

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Wow, that's interesting. And fantastic! If there were ever a cause worth fighting...

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fighting for that is.

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Blonde, you still need to enlist!
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