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Originally posted by DJ FC:
The reason I didn't mention most classic rock was because it's generally pretty good. It avoids consistant persistant emotion rape.
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wow. you really have no perception of the history or creation of music. every fucking song that a band writes, be it a hardcore band, emo band, punk band, classic rock, pop rock, whatever...is based off of emotions that the person is feeling. led zeppelin's "gotta whole lotta love" for example, is written about how robert plant obviously had a feeling of love for another human. everything is based off of emotions, that's what lyrics are. whenever a person writes lyrics, they are doing so because of their emotions and the way they are feeling. you're fucking blind to say that music that is emotional is bad, because every fucking song ever written was done so because someone had an emotion they wanted to get across.
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Originally posted by DJ FC:
The Beatles are a perfect example for my point of view: indeed they were good. Did they scream about how bad their lives were? No. Did the eat pills and feel euphoric? No. They had a happy balance, a fun mood generally, but represented the full spectrum of emotions without raping any of them.
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did they scream? no, because that's not the way they delivered their vocals. did they eat pills and feel euphoric? fuck yes they did. they did more drugs than mostly any band nowadays. every one of their songs was written because they felt a certain way about something. their happy songs are generally about something that happened or that they did that made them happy. you can't tell me it's not true, because they wouldn't write that way if that's not the way they feel.
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Originally posted by DJ FC:
The reason "I think that all music is composed of trance emo and hardcore" isn't that I actually believe those are the only genres, it's that they are the extremes. Hardcore is angry. Emo is sad. Trance (especially euphoric and epic trance) are happy. These genres become worn and tired, unless you become sucked into them. I've seen it over and over. There is good trance, just as I'm sure there is good hardcore and emo. But to find the good shit you have to be willing to sort through all the extreme shit (in trance we call it "cheese") and for hardcore and emo, it's not worth my while personally. Perhaps this is because I don't use music as an outlet for emotions. If this is the case, then it is quite reasonalbe that some would listen to hardcore/emo, but I would question whether listening to it is some form of therapy, or whether you begin to become "sucked" into the habit of listening to it to the point that it becomes habit, and a part of your life. If this is the case (which it seems to be for countless people I encounter) then I would say there is a problem.
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blonde nailed it right when he said that you focus on only what it sounds like. hardcore was a scene that was dominantly christian only a few years ago. you could not hear a hardcore band whose lyrics were not praising jesus and religion. to say that hardcore is angry is a fucking ignorant insult that has no basis or truth in it. the lyrics are one of the most important aspects of a band, be them good or bad.
for some it's therapy, because of how well the lyrics relate to some people. if you've never been that person who sits in the corner at parties not talking to anybody, then you wouldn't relate. however, for that soul whose life is always like that, it's a way for him/her to release emotions that had been built up from all of those times. and it's not that people have habits to music, it's the fact that some people listen to a lot of the same genre because they like it. i listen to hardcore every day, not because it's habit but because i actually like it.
and you want to know why classical music's lyrics aren't emotion based? because there's no fucking words you dumbass. it's all music. of course people will think that it's not emotion based, but even that couldn't be farther from the truth. certain classical composers were seen as being too "dark" or "risque" not because of what they were saying, but by the way the music sounded. a good example is the "moonlight sonata" by beethoven. when that came out, people were questioning it because it had a dark feel to it, and people didn't like it. i guarantee when ludwig was writing that, he had a certain emotion he was trying to convey to people, and obviously he did it.
i agree that music and food can be compared in an abstract manner. that's why people don't listen to only one type of music. not every "emo" kid only listens to emo, i'm sure he loves other types too. you base everything off of stereotypes because you don't know enough about it to actually give a good argument. the lyrics you wrote are so ill thought out that yes, if i heard an emo band singing that, i'd make fun of them. however, most bands don't write that blatantly or self-pity like, and if they did, i'm sure that a general concensus would show that most people agree it's not good.
the best way to figure out why a certain group does something is to understand the group more fully. you haven't taken the time to do this, so your arguments are weak and your claims are false. maybe going to a show where hardcore, emo or punk bands play would help you understand. but until then, shut your mouth about music. because you obviously don't know enough about the history, meaning, message, lyrics or art that is "underground" music.