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Niger Angelus · 02-11-2005, 02:33 AM

I think that there should be an age limit when these old people who can't drive for crap should no longer drive.

[ February 10, 2005, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]

Saint DH · 02-11-2005, 03:00 AM

I think it should be a little more difficult than the test just to get your liscense. I mean any moron with half a brain can pass that test. It's a joke.

Niger Angelus · 02-11-2005, 03:01 AM

Yeah, look how people drive in Warsaw.

ninjaface · 02-11-2005, 03:02 AM

There should be a specialized test for people over... 55 or 60. One of the things they need to test on is ability to consistently drive over 10mph.

tonguegina · 02-11-2005, 03:32 AM

You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.

Mr. Blonde · 02-11-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by tonguegina:
You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.

So you're supporting the test, then? Sorry, i just studied for way too long and can't tell.

Orgazmo · 02-11-2005, 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by tonguegina:
You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.

Tell that to the "get your license when you're 16" age limit...the "no smoking until you're 18" age limit...the "no drinking until you're 21" age limit"...the "no president running stuff until you're 35" age limit...and all the other age limits.

[ February 11, 2005, 01:00 AM: Message edited by: Orgazmo ]

sim_flex_x · 02-11-2005, 04:04 AM

I hate old people drivers. Also, old people with handicapped stickers, those are the worst.

Niger Angelus · 02-11-2005, 04:31 AM

Yeah, I have seen some of them barely able to get out the the vehicle, and barely able to see over the steering wheel, is this really safe?

tonguegina · 02-11-2005, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Orgazmo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tonguegina:
You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.<hr /></blockquote>
Tell that to the "get your license when you're 16" age limit...the "no smoking until you're 18" age limit...the "no drinking until you're 21" age limit"...the "no president running stuff until you're 35" age limit...and all the other age limits.

Ok. I think you should be able to drink at a younger age and smoke whenever you want. I never really gave much thought to the others, but I see no problem with it. Whatever.

Ugly Bastard · 02-11-2005, 05:09 AM

We need an age limit. Period.

-Ugly Bastard

ninjaface · 02-11-2005, 05:58 AM

An age limit for specialized drivers tests only makes sense. I agree that "different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages". But how does that make an age limit a bad idea? Just set the age limit and those who can pass will pass. Those who cannot, get their driving priveledges revoked.

Niger Angelus · 02-11-2005, 06:43 AM

Agreed.

02-11-2005, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Orgazmo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tonguegina:
You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.

Tell that to the "get your license when you're 16" age limit...the "no smoking until you're 18" age limit...the "no drinking until you're 21" age limit"...the "no president running stuff until you're 35" age limit...and all the other age limits.[/quote]
Well it's safe to assume that mental skill and maturity are two different things. Indeed, the Government regulations that bar companies from engaging in age discrimination only apply to individuals over a certain age (I could look it up, but I think it's either 40 or 60). The point is this... even the government acknowledges that discriminating against the young is a necessary evil, to ensure the maturity of participants.

fancymeghan · 02-11-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by ninjaface:
An age limit for specialized drivers tests only makes sense. I agree that "different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages". But how does that make an age limit a bad idea? Just set the age limit and those who can pass will pass. Those who cannot, get their driving priveledges revoked.

the old people will start bitching about age discrimination since they have nothing better do to but go to buffets and watch matlock.

Orgazmo · 02-11-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by DJ FC:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Orgazmo:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tonguegina:
You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.

Tell that to the "get your license when you're 16" age limit...the "no smoking until you're 18" age limit...the "no drinking until you're 21" age limit"...the "no president running stuff until you're 35" age limit...and all the other age limits.[/quote]
Well it's safe to assume that mental skill and maturity are two different things. Indeed, the Government regulations that bar companies from engaging in age discrimination only apply to individuals over a certain age (I could look it up, but I think it's either 40 or 60). The point is this... even the government acknowledges that discriminating against the young is a necessary evil, to ensure the maturity of participants.[/quote]
If discriminating against the young is a necessary evil due to maturity...I don't see why discriminating against the old shouldn't be a necessary evil as well. Of course, it wouldn't be because of maturity...but instead not being able to see...and hear...and drive.

Niger Angelus · 02-11-2005, 04:22 PM

I think if they can't pass the driving test they should either go straight to a nursing home, or be executed.

02-11-2005, 04:36 PM

Well my rambling basically helped the other side of the argument.

What I'm trying to say is that the Government discriminates against youth based on maturity, but protects those who are older from discrimination.

It would be extremely difficult if not impossible to associate increase in age to a decline beyond an "acceptible" driving skill, merely because we don't enforce this acceptible level to those of all ages; to do so would be the only solution I could see as being somewhat feasible - test everybody regardless of Age, Gender, Race, and all other legally protected groups.

Saint DH · 02-11-2005, 05:00 PM

No shit, I think there should be a bi-yearly driving test for everyone. It doesn't matter what age you are (as long as you have a liscense). Muncie, IN has the worst driver's I have ever seen. It's insane. Young, middle-aged, and old, they all suck ass at driving. Anytime you get on the road here you are putting your life in the hands of fate. Unless you drive an indestructable truck like I do.

Niger Angelus · 02-11-2005, 05:03 PM

I don't want to take a freakin' test every year. Especially since I am sure the state would charge an arm and a leg for that too. Just like they do for a freakin' sticker on my plates.

[ February 11, 2005, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]

Beebs · 02-11-2005, 10:02 PM

There shouln't be a single concrete age where you are AUTOMATICALLY ineligible, but having tests once you reach a certain age might be a decent idea, my great aunt actually died in a car crash this summer.

StabMaster Arson · 02-11-2005, 11:23 PM

so, hypothetically, say a law is passed that says I can't legally drive after my 70th birthday. If I'm lucky enough to still be around to turn 70, there is no way in hell I'm gonna not drive. I don't give a shit if I'm blind, deaf, and dumb... I'm 70 years old, goddamnit, I'm doing what I want!

Saint DH · 02-12-2005, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by Niger Angelus:
I don't want to take a freakin' test every year. Especially since I am sure the state would charge an arm and a leg for that too. Just like they do for a freakin' sticker on my plates.

Yeah that would kinda suck.

underwater · 02-12-2005, 09:02 PM

god i bitch about this all the time.. i don't understand why some people don't see that it can be extremely dangerous to have elderly people on the road. agreeing with whoever it was who said this earlier, once you hit a certain age, there needs to be a DRIVING test... not just some shit on a paper. they need to get their asses into a car and prove that they can be safe on the road, WITHOUT driving ten miles under the speed limit or cutting out in front of people because they can't SEE them.

i actually had some old lady back into me at dairy queen a couple years ago... she wasn't going very fast at all, so it didn't hurt my car.. but it still pissed me off. i had been sitting there, waiting to pull out, probably thirty seconds before she even got into her car. but she never even saw me. it's fucking mind-boggling.

02-11-2005, 02:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	I think that there should be an age limit when these old people who can't drive for crap should no longer drive. [ February 10, 2005, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]
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02-11-2005, 03:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	Yeah, look how people drive in Warsaw.
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02-11-2005, 04:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	Yeah, I have seen some of them barely able to get out the the vehicle, and barely able to see over the steering wheel, is this really safe?
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02-11-2005, 06:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	Agreed.
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02-11-2005, 04:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	I think if they can't pass the driving test they should either go straight to a nursing home, or be executed.
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02-11-2005, 03:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,148 Internets: 284753	I think it should be a little more difficult than the test just to get your liscense. I mean any moron with half a brain can pass that test. It's a joke.

02-11-2005, 03:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	There should be a specialized test for people over... 55 or 60. One of the things they need to test on is ability to consistently drive over 10mph.

02-11-2005, 03:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
tonguegina I like dirt. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,861 Internets: 2790	You can't set an age limit because different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages.

02-11-2005, 04:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
sim_flex_x Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: St. Pete Posts: 690 Internets: 10	I hate old people drivers. Also, old people with handicapped stickers, those are the worst.

02-11-2005, 05:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	We need an age limit. Period. -Ugly Bastard

02-11-2005, 05:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	An age limit for specialized drivers tests only makes sense. I agree that "different people's mental capacity is greater at different ages". But how does that make an age limit a bad idea? Just set the age limit and those who can pass will pass. Those who cannot, get their driving priveledges revoked.

02-11-2005, 04:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	Well my rambling basically helped the other side of the argument. What I'm trying to say is that the Government discriminates against youth based on maturity, but protects those who are older from discrimination. It would be extremely difficult if not impossible to associate increase in age to a decline beyond an "acceptible" driving skill, merely because we don't enforce this acceptible level to those of all ages; to do so would be the only solution I could see as being somewhat feasible - test everybody regardless of Age, Gender, Race, and all other legally protected groups.
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02-11-2005, 05:00 PM	#19 (permalink)
Saint DH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,148 Internets: 284753	No shit, I think there should be a bi-yearly driving test for everyone. It doesn't matter what age you are (as long as you have a liscense). Muncie, IN has the worst driver's I have ever seen. It's insane. Young, middle-aged, and old, they all suck ass at driving. Anytime you get on the road here you are putting your life in the hands of fate. Unless you drive an indestructable truck like I do.

02-11-2005, 05:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
Niger Angelus We still believe. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,697 Internets: 216	I don't want to take a freakin' test every year. Especially since I am sure the state would charge an arm and a leg for that too. Just like they do for a freakin' sticker on my plates. [ February 11, 2005, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: Niger Angelus ]
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02-11-2005, 10:02 PM	#21 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	There shouln't be a single concrete age where you are AUTOMATICALLY ineligible, but having tests once you reach a certain age might be a decent idea, my great aunt actually died in a car crash this summer.

02-11-2005, 11:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
StabMaster Arson Roscoe P. Coldchain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stabbin Cabin Posts: 2,759 Internets: 1425	so, hypothetically, say a law is passed that says I can't legally drive after my 70th birthday. If I'm lucky enough to still be around to turn 70, there is no way in hell I'm gonna not drive. I don't give a shit if I'm blind, deaf, and dumb... I'm 70 years old, goddamnit, I'm doing what I want!
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02-12-2005, 09:02 PM	#24 (permalink)
underwater Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: indiana Posts: 1,453 Internets: 10	god i bitch about this all the time.. i don't understand why some people don't see that it can be extremely dangerous to have elderly people on the road. agreeing with whoever it was who said this earlier, once you hit a certain age, there needs to be a DRIVING test... not just some shit on a paper. they need to get their asses into a car and prove that they can be safe on the road, WITHOUT driving ten miles under the speed limit or cutting out in front of people because they can't SEE them. i actually had some old lady back into me at dairy queen a couple years ago... she wasn't going very fast at all, so it didn't hurt my car.. but it still pissed me off. i had been sitting there, waiting to pull out, probably thirty seconds before she even got into her car. but she never even saw me. it's fucking mind-boggling.
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