<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
i said only in a perfect world. i believe in communist views, because they are pure. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now how are they pure? Because the ultimate goal is a perfect world? Isn't the ultimate goal of every government? But communism uses oppresion to achieve it, where as democracy seeks to let it's citizens choose the best route.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
just not in practice (or with humans.) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So you champion something which isn't at all feasible. Well, at leats you realize it. It's always great to strive for excellence, but why waste your time promoting something which you even acknowledge that it is not applicable to humans? Sounds like someone wants to differ from the norm...
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
the only thing that stinks here is the constant ass kissing of this little group with little lives and little minds, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How is any ass-kissing of any type going on here? Explain.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
but i cant say that, cuz id be close-minded and contradicting myself somehow.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You are trying not to be this way. You are trying so hard to live this bullshit.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
you tell me, you know everything. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes. Yes I do.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
i dont want a communist power controlling anything, because it's too easily corruptable, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Corruption is very possible, but the fact that it doesn't work at all seems like the biggest indicator. Again, why do you champion this if you realize it's such bullshit. So you want a perfect world, we all do, but welcome to reality.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
if you could quit being so hung up on trying to bash me, you might understand a little more where i am coming from. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Where are you coming from? Lets see:
1 - You've said you have family problems.
2 - You've said that you're not financially secure.
3 - You've embrace a rebellious attitude.
4 - You've been to 'boot camp' (showing some sort of legal punishment).
Now I don't know you in real life, I've heard things before, but let's not even consider that stuff. This is all stuff you've said. Now, since you know your history, you'd know that people in more desperate situations tend to more easily be influenced by radical ideas. Most all psychological theories would support this. From what you've said, we could conclude that you are simply the product of a negative enviroment, reaching out for anything that offers you stability or can justify the way you are or feel.
But thats all just hypothetical, we don't actually know you. I don't mean this as a personal attack, I was just pointing out the similarities. Correct me if I'm wrong.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
but people fear what they don't understand... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which would lead us to believe that you live in fear of a lot of things.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
the only reason why democracy works well is because of the constant checks and balances. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That and it puts it's faith in it's populus. Again, if you acknowledge the superiority of democratic ideals, then why do you waste your time and our time touting your communist bullshit?
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
look at the romans, they fell apart from the inside out. then the goths came in and tore them apart. that's why they fell. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My god. You stupid motherfucker.
The visigoths overtook a depleted roman EMPIRE. The roman REPUBLIC had ended centuries earlier. When Julius Caesar took over Rome in circa 60 B.C. they were no longer a republic, they lost all their democratic ideals.
That is common bloody knowledge, I don't even know what to say to such blatent stupidity. They fell because they lost democratic ideals, not because their embraced them.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
they lasted for about 550 years, we've only been a working government for about 175 years, and already we are so fucked, we are losing more rights by the hour.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You really do not know your history, do you? Or your math, last time I checked this country was going strong in the late 1700's, putting our working government at at least 200 years...
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
oh yeah, bush is an idiot because he REALLY contradicts himself<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If being president was about contridicting yourself, then you'd be swiftly elected. Start another thread if you really think Bush is an idiot.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
so i hope to see someone at the ymca on friday the 25th of april, wearing a shirt that says "ingsoc fucking sucks". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That would be a waste of a shirt.
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by karnaj686:
you guys made it sound like i would wanna fight, and that would be a contradiction. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Again, trying way to hard.