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Originally posted by ProfessorNumber:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />I agree with you're first part, but how many immagrants that are coming to america now have kids that don't get enough attention, most of the people that i know that cam from other countries do it for the very reason that their kids DO get enough attention ad a propper upbringing...
can you give an example of what you mean by that?
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Hmm, You raise an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. I suppose what I mean is that when a kid grows up selling drugs, getting in fights, and failing school, it makes me wonder whether their upbringing was "proper". Yes, I'm using the same stereotype again, but it seems as though every mexican I know sells drugs and is involved in crime. Not only that, but their houses (or at least the ones I've seen) are pure filth. These people live in their own pathetic squalor. I know they can't afford much, but it literally costs nothing to pick up garbage and throw it away, or fold a few clothes now and then.
So, while you do have a good point, I think it's fair to say that this might be a case of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". In other words, the parents might have wanted to give their kids a better life, but did they really?</font>[/quote]Sorry I haven't been on more often to respond to all of your bullshit professor number. I've been busy working, you know, selling drugs to white kids, getting into gang fights, and filthying my house; you know, the usual stuff I strive for everyday. After reading all this shit you've been posting I'm quite saddened to have realized just how fucking retarded you are. It is one thing, of course, to have opinions about important things such as politics and money. But I must say it is very much quite another thing to over-generalize within those convictions and create an overly-biased and distorted argument.
Let's see here now. You were saying something about a bunch of mexicans fighting at center lake park in Warsaw right? Alright, I think I heard about that. I can't say I remember when it was, nor was I there when it happened. What I can say to you though in regards to this subject is that you have very limited reasoning skills. You see, by looking at only the negative things that hispanic or mexican people do within "your" community, you lost sight of all the good they do. Now, having lived in WArsaw for quite some time now, I believe I have just as much of a right to pass judgement upon the people within the community and their actions; as you have just done. Firstly though, I think I'll follow in your footsteps and first bitch about something in order to then follow up with evidence to support my claim. Hmmm. Alright, how about all the racist white cops in Warsaw. Especially those in Winona Lake. I get pulled over for going 39 in a 35 and without question get a 90 dollar ticket. I've been pulled over twice with claims that I had a "suspicious" looking vehicle and in both cases was asked to pop my trunk and reveal the inside of my trunk. (it was empty of course and they didn't slap anything on me but I knew the whole thing was bullshit.) In another instance, I've witnessed a friend of my father's, a mexican guy, being harassed outside his home by two cops who were searching his car. When the guy started shivering of cold, the cops then told him that if he had a problem with the temperature, he should go back to Mexico. The guy then told the officers to suck his dick and they then proceeded to threaten with arrest if he didn't keep quiet. The cops didn't find anything and drove off. But the fact remains this man was harassed. So there's my complaint, the white cops in Warsaw are racist. Now, following Number's footsteps, I will then proceed to make my over-generalization. Since it is apparent to me that cops in Warsaw are racist and do not like me because I'm mexican, I am able to then reason that if the cops, the upholders of justice within any community, do not like me; it is probable that most of the people within the community are racist and they will not like me because I am not white. It seems, they don't like anything that is not white. Now, my statement is laid out with supporting evidence and vindication. However, the only problem I see is that I know many of the people in the community. In fact, a majority of my best friends from Warsaw are white and don't seem to be racist at all. In fact, I have many times heard them say that they are in no way prejudiced against any race or minority group.
What am I to do with conflicting evidence? Cops, a symbol of justice, have become affiliated with racist demeanor. Shouldn't that mean that the rest of the community from which they are employed by is racist as well? Well, if I was narrow minded enough to believe that I'd be stuck. Stuck, just like Numbers here. The truth is, you can't generalize too much anymore. Well, you could, but the chances of you being wrong are very good. And, of course, if you like being wrong then go right ahead. Be a dumbass. But my point remains that generalizing any behaviour on a certain ethnic group, especially one as large and diversified as the hispanic population, is not only a display of narrow-minded thought, but is probably very innacurate.
Now, you could say that the mexicans YOU know do such and such. But then again, you'd only be talking about the ones you know. And, since you seem to have such a negative view towards minority groups from the get go, I'd have to say your opinion would be very biased since you seem to have already made a judgement prior to weighing your understanding.
Now, going on to your problems with those of Indian descent, I must say it is quite a hypocritical statment. You say that you dislike those of Indian descent because they are, how did you say it? Oh yeah, quite the sticklers for the rules isn't that how you said it? Well, it seems you enjoy breaking or bending the rules since you buy cigarettes for your underage friends, but you dislike when a group of minorities break the law. So, in your case, it is ok for you to buy underage teens cigarettes, but it is unruly for drug dealers to sell drugs. I see. Now, I'm not in any way comparing cigarettes to drugs (even though cigarettes ARE a drug) and I'm not saying that selling cigarettes are as bad as selling drugs. My point is based on the actions of doing so. It is against the law to sell cigarattes to minors and against the law for minors to have cigarettes just as it is agasint the law for someone to distribute illegal substances. Both are breaking the law. Hell, both drugs are killing people. Number, how you justify these actions is beside me. Hell, your entire reasoning is beside me. I will say this though, anyone who believes that they are given some divine right over another person is full of shit. I'm sorry, but you're not special. No one is. No one is of any purebred race so it is therein pointless to define race. And, if it is to be done, if people are going to be classified by their race, then it should be done thoroughly. And when I say thorough I mean, every single relative must be traced back to the origins of man and everytime a relative of one ethnic group has bred with a relative of another ethnic group, their offspring must be given the label of both groups. For instance, if you by any chance Professor Number once had German ancestors, then we should include the ancestors of your ancestors who were probably of asiatic descent since the goths of germania were indirect descendents of the mongolian empire. And, one must also include all the possible inter-marriage of ethnic groups during the dark ages and feudal period. And it keeps going on and on until you realize that the spectrum has become so broad that there is no such thing as a race or certain "breed" of human being. The only way to accurately incorporate the entirety of the human race is to simplify the term race.
And this is where we get to color. Yes, god almighty, color. This guy's black, this guy's yellow, I'm brown and you're white. Hmmm... but that's not completely accurate because two white people are two different tones of white and black people are different tones of black, well shit, not even black but brown. Well shit, what do we do? Ah, I know! Lets make it even more complex, lets incorporate tones. You're bronze, you're light brown, you're sienna, you're tangerine-tan, you're peach colored... How long will this go on? Will we have conflict with each other over hair color? eye color? Will we discriminate against those with bushy eyebrows? What about short people, will we hate against them too?
When will people come to understand that we're all the same? Just a different side of the pyramid.