If you don't like the middle school hangout where you can't make nose and can't take chairs that know one else is using(CC) well..
I'v gone to the Blue Lion in Winona lake alot and there are normally only college ppl there, and me and my friends were so loud in there, and went upstares and stated like makeing alot more commotion and they just asked that we not jump up and down (and we only ever got a free water) and they didnt care..
i would say if you are looking for a new "scene" where you don't want to kill yourself in. then maybe check it out with a cuple of friends. It might turn out better.
Also, that apple place is fucking expensive! i can't buy much in there, but the drinks at blue lion are just about the same as CC.
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