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Unread 02-05-2004, 09:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally posted by I_Touch_MySelf:
Hondas are primarily known for their peak horsepower and torque at high rpms. But name one american car that has an 8800 rpm redline stock. Can you also name an american car that puts out 120hp per liter stock. No you cant, honda is the only to do so. And if you want to get Rotary Power on your ass the RX8 puts out 250hp n/a in a 1.3 liter engine. As for handling you could spend 2k on a Z06 and out handle a stock Jap car but put 2k in suspension on an AE86 or an RX7 and the Z06 wouldnt have a chance. Traditionally Japan does not wage a horsepower war but a power to weight to ratio battle unlike 3-4000 lb american performance cars. And as for the 280hp rule if you knew anything about japanese cars you would know that the when the Nissan Skyline is dynoed stock it has more then 300hp. I will however agree that the TT Supra is very over priced.
The sound that a Honda makes redlining is akin to a screaming child. If you like the pussy sound of a high revving engine then go and buy your faggot Honda. Second, what you don't realize is that there is only so much you can do to your suspension, aside from dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into a custom chassis.

Next, the RX-7 cannot climb hills in any way, shape, or form. It's torque is only available at very high rpms, and even then, it only has around 150 ft. lbs(?). It is not that fast off the line, and its engine is prone to very HIGH maintenance.

The Supra is extremely expensive to buy, but not only that, it is also quite heavy and quasi-lethargic. In my opinion, it is the Jap equivalent of the Camaro. Would I love to have one? Abso-fucking-lutely. However, If I were going to spend 45k on a sports car I would much prefer a 1-2 year old Z06, and then dump about 2k into the suspension. Also, the C6 generation of Z06s will be coming out soon. They will have 500hp, and will smoke any stock dirty jap car that dares drag race them.

As for the Skyline (GT-R), it is an exceptional car. It is quite possibly the best JDM car EVER. Its ATESSA ETS Pro AWD system is easily the best AWD in the entire world. It is so advanced, that it can actually launch in AWD and then switch to RWD, giving it a large edge in drag racing. However, the Skyline is nothing more than a ricer's wet dream. The cost of a barely used R-34 GT-R is around 40-100k American, plus the cost of shipping and conversions. And, that is only the stock model. You would have to sink quite a few more greenbacks into it in order to have a damn fast car. If I were a multi-millionaire, I would definitely own a GT-R. But, there is an alternative: the Nissan S-14 240sx. You can drop an RB26DET (the GT-R engine) into it for around 10k. The car itself is relatively cheap, and it looks somewhat like a skyline. So for around 20k you can have a car with excellent performance that will easily run 11's on the quarter, and out drift any car on the track.

Anyway, American cars use large displacement as a means to gain greater power, but I see nothing wrong with this. There is no better car sound than a 396 small block with cowboy pipes.

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