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Ugly Bastard · 12-16-2003, 04:32 PM

(Forenote: Sorry for just jumping in here after the fireworks have stopped, but I was away last night)

Chan, please clarify your last post a bit for me. Are you saying that you believe in Christianity, but abandon those beliefs as soon as Christianity claims to be the one and only correct answer. Christianity has never been about pluaralism. As far as I know, Christians as a whole have never not been absolutists. So was your line about "I am a Christian until it becomes absolutism" just a pun?

One of the things that my religious studies class has made me think, is: What if all relgions are "right". What if the beliefs and promises of each and every religion around the world come true for it's believers?

We have studied every mainstream religion in the world in this class, and the one thing I have noticed is, not one of them seems any better than the other. Each religion has it's farfetched beliefs, each religion has it's querks, and each religion has it's closed-minded followers.

One of the things I have noticed about those of us proclaiming to be Christians in this thread is, all of you assume that you and your beliefs are 100% correct, and that you must believe them to reach the more desireable afterlife. Can any of you prove that the terrorists who flew planes into the World Trade Centers aren't up in heaven right now with 7 virgins serving them? How do you know that each religion's promises do not come true for it's believers?

That's one of the things that has been pissing me off about Christianity lately; it's lack of pluralism. Most Christians are quick to put down believers of other religions, and tell them that they are going to hell for not being Christians. How do you know this? They probably think the same thing about you, but they don't shove their religion down your throat, because most religions out there are pluaristic, and do not think that forcing their religion on others is going to accomplish any good.

Most Christians our age (myself included), were raised in a home were Christianity was pumped down our throat from the day we were born. I hope all of you at least take the time to step back and make sure that the beliefs of your parents are the things that you wish to believe too. I've talked to Brass about this before, and while growing up, his Dad always encouraged him to challenge the truths of Christianity, and believe what he wants to believe. Brass is a Christian, but only because he scrutinized it enough to the point he decided to believe. Don't just swallow everything society feeds you...pull a Brass and actually examine things for yourself. (Everything in this last paragraph was not directed at anyone personally...they are simply my thoughts on Christianity amongst young persons today).

-Ugly Bastard

[ December 16, 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: Ugly Bastard ]

12-16-2003, 04:32 PM	#80 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	(Forenote: Sorry for just jumping in here after the fireworks have stopped, but I was away last night) Chan, please clarify your last post a bit for me. Are you saying that you believe in Christianity, but abandon those beliefs as soon as Christianity claims to be the one and only correct answer. Christianity has never been about pluaralism. As far as I know, Christians as a whole have never not been absolutists. So was your line about "I am a Christian until it becomes absolutism" just a pun? One of the things that my religious studies class has made me think, is: What if all relgions are "right". What if the beliefs and promises of each and every religion around the world come true for it's believers? We have studied every mainstream religion in the world in this class, and the one thing I have noticed is, not one of them seems any better than the other. Each religion has it's farfetched beliefs, each religion has it's querks, and each religion has it's closed-minded followers. One of the things I have noticed about those of us proclaiming to be Christians in this thread is, all of you assume that you and your beliefs are 100% correct, and that you must believe them to reach the more desireable afterlife. Can any of you prove that the terrorists who flew planes into the World Trade Centers aren't up in heaven right now with 7 virgins serving them? How do you know that each religion's promises do not come true for it's believers? That's one of the things that has been pissing me off about Christianity lately; it's lack of pluralism. Most Christians are quick to put down believers of other religions, and tell them that they are going to hell for not being Christians. How do you know this? They probably think the same thing about you, but they don't shove their religion down your throat, because most religions out there are pluaristic, and do not think that forcing their religion on others is going to accomplish any good. Most Christians our age (myself included), were raised in a home were Christianity was pumped down our throat from the day we were born. I hope all of you at least take the time to step back and make sure that the beliefs of your parents are the things that you wish to believe too. I've talked to Brass about this before, and while growing up, his Dad always encouraged him to challenge the truths of Christianity, and believe what he wants to believe. Brass is a Christian, but only because he scrutinized it enough to the point he decided to believe. Don't just swallow everything society feeds you...pull a Brass and actually examine things for yourself. (Everything in this last paragraph was not directed at anyone personally...they are simply my thoughts on Christianity amongst young persons today). -Ugly Bastard [ December 16, 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: Ugly Bastard ]