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Unread 05-25-2009, 04:03 PM   #189 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination
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They wouldn't be fucking over the average tax payer if we'd let them fail, as your following quote implies.
Agreed.
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A very broad statement. Are you trying to say that not taxing the employers doesn't help everybody? A very hard stance to support.
Fair enough. But taxes are (at least in theory) designed to provide benefits for everyone. What if those taxes were used to offer poor people small business loans to create their own startup companies? The rich person will remain rich regardless, and I'm fine with that as long as it's not at the expense of everyone else.

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Socialism does indeed have ban connotations, but why does democracy have good connotations? Once again, as you say later, I too am not completely sold on democracy. I am sold on the freedom to exchange and trade as you see fit, the markets, and capitalism.
Democracy has good connotations because it appeals to the majority. But should the majority make decisions on complicated issues that they don't understand? The majority of people in this country aren't very educated. Why would I want the masses to (indirectly) decide things like stem cell research and foreign policy?

Obviously coming up with an alternative creates a number of problems. But I don't think I have to have the answer to a problem merely because I pointed out the problem to begin with. The main source of my irritation is that it doesn't seem to be a topic up for debate. Tell someone you question democracy and you're practically a traitor.

I actually do have an alternative system in mind, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on it first before continuing.

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This just makes you sound whiny and emo. What should it be, sex appeal? Humans will ALWAYS measure themselves against one another, and money is just 1 of the many, many ways they do it.
Like I said, I recognize that there's probably not another feasible way. I just don't think our system rewards people enough who contribute to society in ways that don't just produce more money.

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