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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe View Post
My personal testimony and personal relationship with Christ is enough for me. If you really studied it at the very least I think you'd realize that Jesus did exsist. There are simply too many historical writings wrote about him including ones that weren't included in the bible. Bottom line is that I tried to get people at least thinking.
More of these historical writings on Jesus that aren't in the Bible, plz.

Also, I would wager to say most nonbelievers actually "think" more than a lot of nonbelievers.

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I can't tell you one person who has had there life here changed by Horus the Sun God of Egypt but I can tell you thousands I've heard had there life changed by Christ. I know you can make a cultural argument but truth be told people are converting to Christ worldwide.
That's because you live in the United State, and you weren't born in another part of the world. Also, people are converting mostly because of missionaries proselytizing while helping extremely poor and needy people. On geographic distribution of religion:


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And this ideology has lasted how long? The God I know has been worshiped since the beginning of mankind.
No, he hasn't. Your god has been worshipped for 2,000 years, not 50,000. There were myriad gods before yours and there will be many more after (although i'm hoping not.)

List of deities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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ID if a prophecy in the bible was stated and didn't come true. Our faith would be completely shot.
As far as I can tell (and i've already mentioned this) all these prophecies seem to be prophesied IN the Bible and then fulfilled...IN THE BIBLE. Do you understand this? Something in the Old Testament is proved in the New Testament. Throwing out the possibility of backediting which I already mentioned (which is completely feasible with how many hands/translations it went through, unless you can show me original, carbon-dated scrolls of the Old Testament), these prophecies aren't exactly specific. They're like horoscopes:

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OT prophecies written hundreds of years before Jesus' life said the messiah would return in the form of a man being the Son of God who would be crucified on the cross and be risen from the dead. I can provide the scripture references to confirm those claims.
-A man who claims to be a God?! That's a prophecy??? As opposed to WHAT?! What else would a messiah claim to be??? -

-Crucifixion was a very popular form of torture for at least 500 years before Christs purported existence.

-Nobody can prove he was raised from the dead, making this prophecy unfulfilled.



As a sidepoint, @Ninja, Wikipedia is a fantastic source and on the bottom of literally almost every single page is a long list of references in the article. If nothing else, wikipedia is a good list of alternative and legitimate sources.

Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.

― Terence McKenna

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