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Mr. Blonde · 12-03-2011, 11:56 AM

I never liked kids before I went to Korea and taught them. I imagine most dudes have this attitude if they have never really spent time around a lot of kids. I think it is pretty normal for guys in particular to say "Shit, I hate kids, I don't want to get married/have kids ever...etc. etc.", but statistically, all of us will probably have at least one kid.

It's changing as I get older too. It's amazing how much the idea of leaving a biological legacy outweighs the general bullshit of having kids. I've been watching my niece and nephew a lot since I've been out here in AZ, and while it's fun being an uncle with no real responsibility longer than 24-48 hours at a time, I can't imagine doing this every day.

Some of the stuff you have to deal with on a regular basis:

- Potty training. My nephew is 3 and can sit on the toilet but not by himself (will fall in). He grunts a lot and looks me DEAD in the eyes when he goes. Also, if he doesn't hold his junk down he pisses all over the place, so since he's holding onto the toilet seat with both hands for dear life, guess who gets to do that job? The whole process is very disturbing to me.

- Diaper changing. If they can't go on the toilet, you have to clean shit out of everywhere. We've all seen it on TV/movies under a comical umbrella, but it's really not funny at all. It's disgusting, I have to wipe human feces out of my 1 year old nieces labia while she's screaming. It's fucking awful.

- Feeding/cleaning. Even if they can feed themselves, they get messy as fuck. They drop shit all the time. They are demanding.

- Entertainment. My sister and brother in law do okay for themselves, so they've got a play area setup in a different area from the house for the living room. It has a TV/DVD player, all their toys and they let the kids use their 2 ipads. Even with this bounty of entertainment, the kids still are constantly getting into shit. I could never get any work done with kids around.

- Middle of the night wakeups. Whenever I watch them (which now that I have a job I will not be doing near as much), I have to sleep with a baby monitor which wakes me up from my niece crying about 3x a night. My nephew wakes me up about 2x a night to do stupid shit, like wakes up for no reason or needs to use the bathroom. I'm on about 5 hrs of sleep right now and feel like strangling these little fuckers.

- Crying over the dumbest shit ever. My nephew just threw a tantrum because he wanted the black Ipad instead of the White one that his sister had. Seriously, first world fucking problems.

I realize that obviously hardly any of this is the kids' fault themselves; it's just how kids are, and we were all pretty much exactly the same until we learned some semblance of self control. I don't expect THAT much out of 1 and 3 year olds, and that's the problem a lot of adults have with all kids -- they are using their decades of knowledge and experience and expecting the same thing out of a mere child.

All that being said, I really don't see what's so great about having your own kids. It really is a life sentence. It's hard to think about because I don't know what a future without kids is like -- other than AP, I don't know hardly any "adults" (Which I still don't really consider myself as) who don't have kids, so I have this like...feeling that if you don't have kids you are somehow a bad person. Also if you don't have kids you're pretty much holding up a giant middle finger to 4 billion years of evolution...which is kind of badass, but also kind of sad.

12-03-2011, 11:56 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Kids I never liked kids before I went to Korea and taught them. I imagine most dudes have this attitude if they have never really spent time around a lot of kids. I think it is pretty normal for guys in particular to say "Shit, I hate kids, I don't want to get married/have kids ever...etc. etc.", but statistically, all of us will probably have at least one kid. It's changing as I get older too. It's amazing how much the idea of leaving a biological legacy outweighs the general bullshit of having kids. I've been watching my niece and nephew a lot since I've been out here in AZ, and while it's fun being an uncle with no real responsibility longer than 24-48 hours at a time, I can't imagine doing this every day. Some of the stuff you have to deal with on a regular basis: - Potty training. My nephew is 3 and can sit on the toilet but not by himself (will fall in). He grunts a lot and looks me DEAD in the eyes when he goes. Also, if he doesn't hold his junk down he pisses all over the place, so since he's holding onto the toilet seat with both hands for dear life, guess who gets to do that job? The whole process is very disturbing to me. - Diaper changing. If they can't go on the toilet, you have to clean shit out of everywhere. We've all seen it on TV/movies under a comical umbrella, but it's really not funny at all. It's disgusting, I have to wipe human feces out of my 1 year old nieces labia while she's screaming. It's fucking awful. - Feeding/cleaning. Even if they can feed themselves, they get messy as fuck. They drop shit all the time. They are demanding. - Entertainment. My sister and brother in law do okay for themselves, so they've got a play area setup in a different area from the house for the living room. It has a TV/DVD player, all their toys and they let the kids use their 2 ipads. Even with this bounty of entertainment, the kids still are constantly getting into shit. I could never get any work done with kids around. - Middle of the night wakeups. Whenever I watch them (which now that I have a job I will not be doing near as much), I have to sleep with a baby monitor which wakes me up from my niece crying about 3x a night. My nephew wakes me up about 2x a night to do stupid shit, like wakes up for no reason or needs to use the bathroom. I'm on about 5 hrs of sleep right now and feel like strangling these little fuckers. - Crying over the dumbest shit ever. My nephew just threw a tantrum because he wanted the black Ipad instead of the White one that his sister had. Seriously, first world fucking problems. I realize that obviously hardly any of this is the kids' fault themselves; it's just how kids are, and we were all pretty much exactly the same until we learned some semblance of self control. I don't expect THAT much out of 1 and 3 year olds, and that's the problem a lot of adults have with all kids -- they are using their decades of knowledge and experience and expecting the same thing out of a mere child. All that being said, I really don't see what's so great about having your own kids. It really is a life sentence. It's hard to think about because I don't know what a future without kids is like -- other than AP, I don't know hardly any "adults" (Which I still don't really consider myself as) who don't have kids, so I have this like...feeling that if you don't have kids you are somehow a bad person. Also if you don't have kids you're pretty much holding up a giant middle finger to 4 billion years of evolution...which is kind of badass, but also kind of sad.
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna Last edited by Mr. Blonde; 12-03-2011 at 12:01 PM.