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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination
We're not even talking about religion...We're talking about something that has religious implications.
"Precisely because science deals with only what can be known, direct or indirectly, by sense experience, it cannot answer the question of whether there is anything — for example, consciousness, morality, beauty or God — that is not entirely knowable by sense experience. To show that there is nothing beyond sense experience, we would need philosophical arguments, not scientific experiments."
Does anyone disagree with this? If not then I don't even have anything to argue.
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I think you're creating a false separation of philosophy and science; philosophy is essentially the study of thought. There is no real reason to separate "logic" from "sense experience", nor is there a need to use some sort consideration of the supernatural to understand any of the things you mention that are outside of "sense experience."