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f3lix · 04-24-2004, 03:27 PM

John Kerry Outlines Plan to Require Service for High School Students

Part of 100 days Plan to Enlist One Million Americans in National Service A Year

On September 11th, 2001, America experienced the most terrible and deadly attack in its history. John Kerry believes we need to think big and do better and get more young Americans serving the nation.

As part of his 100 day plan to change America, John Kerry will propose a comprehensive service plan that includes requiring mandatory service for high school students and four years of college tuition in exchange for two years of national service.

Mr. Blonde · 04-24-2004, 06:00 PM

Yes.

Its weird, i think John Kerry posts on Nubblies.

corvax · 04-24-2004, 07:01 PM

where'd you get that article from?

f3lix · 04-24-2004, 11:57 PM

I'm SO glad you asked...here is John Kerry's site...
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/100days/

Scroll down and click on the (+) next to the (2) choice. Notice he has eliminated the word "mandatory".

Here is a google cache of the original writing on the page.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Kerry can hide and lie about his policies, but he can't beat the good ole cache!

corvax · 04-25-2004, 01:23 AM

hm...maybe he wants to require high school students to complete a certain number of "service hours" before they can graduate, like national honor society or something like that.

f3lix · 04-25-2004, 02:27 AM

I think we both know that isn't the case

corvax · 04-25-2004, 03:59 AM

lol. oh. so what is that we both know, now?

Cocktooth · 04-25-2004, 05:08 AM

spoken like true republicans!!! Lets not work for the country...lets let the poor get poorer...all you fuckers need to understand without the hard working union man this counrty would be shit.....if you wont fight for your country if asked, go fuck yourselfs you fucking self centered pricks

[ April 25, 2004, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: Shaw ]

VOL · 04-25-2004, 12:02 PM

I'm going to outline several points here, so allow me to begin:

*I still think John Kerry is the man to vote for in 2004. Now put that aside for a minute.

*For purposes of this thread. I think you are reading too much into this or not enough. First, they would have to take this to congress in which it would be stopped because it would be completely against the rights of the people according to the constitution. It states that we shall not be deprived of our "pursuit of happiness" and if the pursuit of happiness for someone is not serving, then they are not going to be forced to.

*The plan is set in motion to make college more affordable, not to get everyone into military service. It's just like a National Guard, except the real military regulars.

* To sum up, this is all just about college affordability it seems. John Kerry, or anyone for that matter, cannot force anyone to go into the military without a draft because of the constitutional violation.

That is all.

f3lix · 04-25-2004, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaw:
spoken like true republicans!!! Lets not work for the country...lets let the poor get poorer...all you fuckers need to understand without the hard working union man this counrty would be shit.....if you wont fight for your country if asked, go fuck yourselfs you fucking self centered pricks

Spoken like a true Democrat who is too ignorant to think that there are more than just Democrats and Republicans. Shaw, are you that much of a Democrat that you are illiterate and can't read the other threads to see that I am NOT a Republican?

Mr. Blonde · 04-25-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by f3lix:
Shaw, you are illiterate and can't read

[ April 25, 2004, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: Mr. Blonde ]

Cocktooth · 04-25-2004, 05:24 PM

Ok what time was that post made....3:24 on a sunday morning....i was hammered so i apoligize...but you can still kiss my white ass you selfish pricks!!

Mr. Blonde · 04-25-2004, 06:04 PM

lol, he's got a point

StDx · 04-26-2004, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by f3lix:
Is THIS why you support Kerry?

Nope. I support Kerry because I'd really like to see Bush out of office. Whether you like to admit it or not, a vote for your precious third party candidate might as well be a vote for Bush.

f3lix · 04-26-2004, 05:40 AM

If all you fuckers that say you're voting for Kerry for an anti-Bush vote, you'd see a difference for once in politics!

BarryJive · 04-26-2004, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by f3lix:
...you'd see a difference for once in politics!

What does that even mean?

[ April 26, 2004, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: BarryJive ]

04-26-2004, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VOL:
It states that we shall not be deprived of our "pursuit of happiness" and if the pursuit of happiness for someone is not serving, then they are not going to be forced to.

I'm sorry VOL, I did'nt know you were a Supreme Court Justice (the only person whose interpretation of the constitution matters).

There are many things which are required in this nation, such as mandatory jury duty, and enlistment into the selective service program, which could lead to an eventual military draft.

Highschoolers being required to perform community service is hardly a violation of my right to pursue happiness. That's like saying I shouldn't have to attend highschool to get my diploma.

VOL · 04-26-2004, 12:27 PM

I went on to interpret his point on that topic and elaborate on what it really means.

The whole jury duty issue can only happen if you register to vote. Other than that, you can't be chosen. Now I may be wrong, If I am I'll concede my point. Someone either confirm or deny my correctness on this.

04-26-2004, 12:35 PM

http://www.election.co.riverside.ca.us/juryduty.htm

Q: If I register to vote, will I be called for jury duty?

A: People are called for jury duty from the drivers’ license and voter registration rolls. Voter registration doesn’t increase the odds that you’ll be called for jury duty.

http://www.co.apache.az.us/recorder/...er_Reg_FAQ.htm

[ April 26, 2004, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: DJ FC ]

VOL · 04-26-2004, 01:51 PM

Nicely done FC. I suppose I was wrong. I thought jury duty was only through voter registration.

yardobeef · 04-26-2004, 05:49 PM

GOD DAMMIT. i'm wanting a liberal pres. in office so bad right now.

Whino · 04-27-2004, 02:27 AM

Yo I didn’t really read everything you said cause it was to many words, but I just wanted to say I’m not voting and neither should most people. I really don’t care who is in office. I don’t know a lot about politics I don’t know what the people stand for and most of what they say they’ll do, they don’t. Some people know more then me but they get there information from TV, which is mostly propaganda or just bs. If I do vote it makes everyone else’s vote worth less. I have the choice between and idiot and a douche bag, I rather be shot in the leg then waste my time to vote for either one of them…WHINO FOR PRESIDENT

04-27-2004, 02:39 AM

WHINO FOR PRESIDENT

04-24-2004, 06:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	Yes. Its weird, i think John Kerry posts on Nubblies.
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04-24-2004, 07:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
corvax Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: munciebury Posts: 15 Internets: 10	where'd you get that article from?
	i love djfc.

04-25-2004, 01:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
corvax Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: munciebury Posts: 15 Internets: 10	hm...maybe he wants to require high school students to complete a certain number of "service hours" before they can graduate, like national honor society or something like that.
	i love djfc.

04-25-2004, 03:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
corvax Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: munciebury Posts: 15 Internets: 10	lol. oh. so what is that we both know, now?
	i love djfc.

04-25-2004, 05:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	spoken like true republicans!!! Lets not work for the country...lets let the poor get poorer...all you fuckers need to understand without the hard working union man this counrty would be shit.....if you wont fight for your country if asked, go fuck yourselfs you fucking self centered pricks [ April 25, 2004, 03:24 AM: Message edited by: Shaw ]
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

04-24-2004, 03:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	John Kerry Outlines Plan to Require Service for High School Students Part of 100 days Plan to Enlist One Million Americans in National Service A Year On September 11th, 2001, America experienced the most terrible and deadly attack in its history. John Kerry believes we need to think big and do better and get more young Americans serving the nation. As part of his 100 day plan to change America, John Kerry will propose a comprehensive service plan that includes requiring mandatory service for high school students and four years of college tuition in exchange for two years of national service.

04-24-2004, 11:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I'm SO glad you asked...here is John Kerry's site... http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/100days/ Scroll down and click on the (+) next to the (2) choice. Notice he has eliminated the word "mandatory". Here is a google cache of the original writing on the page. http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Kerry can hide and lie about his policies, but he can't beat the good ole cache!

04-25-2004, 02:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I think we both know that isn't the case

04-25-2004, 12:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	I'm going to outline several points here, so allow me to begin: I still think John Kerry is the man to vote for in 2004. Now put that aside for a minute. For purposes of this thread. I think you are reading too much into this or not enough. First, they would have to take this to congress in which it would be stopped because it would be completely against the rights of the people according to the constitution. It states that we shall not be deprived of our "pursuit of happiness" and if the pursuit of happiness for someone is not serving, then they are not going to be forced to. The plan is set in motion to make college more affordable, not to get everyone into military service. It's just like a National Guard, except the real military regulars. To sum up, this is all just about college affordability it seems. John Kerry, or anyone for that matter, cannot force anyone to go into the military without a draft because of the constitutional violation. That is all.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

04-25-2004, 05:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	Ok what time was that post made....3:24 on a sunday morning....i was hammered so i apoligize...but you can still kiss my white ass you selfish pricks!!
	Nubblies: If we put up with Felix, we will put up with you too.

04-25-2004, 06:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mr. Blonde Spice Master Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 17,969 Internets: 284106	lol, he's got a point
	Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing. ― Terence McKenna

04-26-2004, 05:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	If all you fuckers that say you're voting for Kerry for an anti-Bush vote, you'd see a difference for once in politics!

04-26-2004, 12:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	I went on to interpret his point on that topic and elaborate on what it really means. The whole jury duty issue can only happen if you register to vote. Other than that, you can't be chosen. Now I may be wrong, If I am I'll concede my point. Someone either confirm or deny my correctness on this.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

04-26-2004, 12:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.election.co.riverside.ca.us/juryduty.htm Q: If I register to vote, will I be called for jury duty? A: People are called for jury duty from the drivers’ license and voter registration rolls. Voter registration doesn’t increase the odds that you’ll be called for jury duty. http://www.co.apache.az.us/recorder/...er_Reg_FAQ.htm [ April 26, 2004, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: DJ FC ]
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a

04-26-2004, 01:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Nicely done FC. I suppose I was wrong. I thought jury duty was only through voter registration.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

04-26-2004, 05:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
yardobeef Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portage and IU Posts: 120 Internets: 2	GOD DAMMIT. i'm wanting a liberal pres. in office so bad right now.
	What up brah?

04-27-2004, 02:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
Whino Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: IU Posts: 25 Internets: 10	Yo I didn’t really read everything you said cause it was to many words, but I just wanted to say I’m not voting and neither should most people. I really don’t care who is in office. I don’t know a lot about politics I don’t know what the people stand for and most of what they say they’ll do, they don’t. Some people know more then me but they get there information from TV, which is mostly propaganda or just bs. If I do vote it makes everyone else’s vote worth less. I have the choice between and idiot and a douche bag, I rather be shot in the leg then waste my time to vote for either one of them…WHINO FOR PRESIDENT
	Sex Drugs & Rock n' Roll

04-27-2004, 02:39 AM	#23 (permalink)
DJ FC Guest Posts: n/a	WHINO FOR PRESIDENT
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