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BigDongedHoe · 11-09-2003, 02:14 AM

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MUNCIE, Ind. -- A rookie Ball State University police officer fired four shots into a university student early Saturday, killing the 21-year-old, who investigators say lunged at the officer as he was responding to a burglary report.

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Personally this sounds extremely fucked up. I think the officer was on a power trip and murdered this kid. As far as I'm concerned the officer should be thrown in jail for this shit. Regardless if the kid "lunged" at him he didn't have to shoot him in the chest let alone 4 times. He could of easily shot the kid in the leg or wrestled the kid to the ground. It's pieces of shit like this that don't "serve and protect" but abuse power and take innocent lives.

For all of you BSUers I would protest this shit on campus because there's no fucking way this should of happened.

Ugly Bastard · 11-09-2003, 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
For all of you BSUers I would protest this shit on campus because there's no fucking way this should of happened.

Yeah, I marched up and down McKinley today for three hours...

That was a joke, in all serious now:

This is a pretty awful thing to read. It sounds like a rookie hot-shot cop was a little trigger happy. As far as your comment saying he should go to jail, no fucking way he should. He was just doing his job, and did what he thought he should do in the situation. If every cop who possibly made a mistake upon firing his weapon had to go to prison...fuck me ever wanting to be a cop.

He was just trying to protect himself, and granted maybe the gun wasn't the best way to do that...he still had to do what he had to do.

The whole thing is just a sad-sad situation. I'd like to see a picture of the kid to see if I'd recognize him, I do not recognize the name however.

-Ugly Bastard

Fruitacious B · 11-09-2003, 02:55 AM

Granted, I'm not in college or anything, but it does seem like this guy was going crazy. I don't think the cop was totally out of line. Likewise, however, I don't think four shots were necesary.

StabMaster Arson · 11-09-2003, 03:48 AM

The standard protocal for police using their firearm is to stop advancement/movement... if the guy was still moving toward the officer, more shots were needed. They aren't trained to shoot to maim.

In the same right, they are not to use their guns unless they are in immediate danger... I would like to know how well-lit the area was, how far the officer was from the kid, and a lot more factors before I pass judgement.
From the facts given, it does sound very suspect.

[ November 09, 2003, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]

BigDongedHoe · 11-09-2003, 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by StabMaster Arson:

In the same right, they are not to use their guns unless they are in immediate danger... I would like to know how well-lit the area was, how far the officer was from the kid, and a lot more factors before I pass judgement.
From the facts given, it does sound very suspect.

Those are excellent points, and I agree I should probably attain more information before I actually pass judgement.

However these are my thoughts: The kid was piss-drunk (I'll be interested to see his blood-alcohol levels) coming home and forgot where his house was. If the kid was actually banging on this woman's house for 25-30 min. do you really think he's trying to rob the place? I think he actually thought it might be his house and was banging on it and getting quite pissed because nobody would let him in.

Enters Johnny Hero seeing the man banging on his door. He shouts at him (keep in mind this guy is fucking wasted (I'm assuming)) telling him to get down. The guy doesn't hear and runs after him for whatever reason. I think it's fair that the cop could of easily surveyed wether the man had a weapon or not. I also still firmly believe he could of shot him in the leg to "maim" him. There is absolutely no reason in my mind why he needed to shoot him 4 times in the chest unless the man was getting ready to shoot him and/or charged with a deadly weapon.

Pliedes · 11-09-2003, 03:53 PM

I shoot BSU students for fun.

marauder543 · 11-09-2003, 05:35 PM

Police officers are not trained to shoot to maime or even to specifically kill. Police officers are trained to shoot to "stop" and to aim for the main mass of the body, decreasing the chance of missing. Many times this does result in death.
This situation is unfortunate, and I agree that the officer and the situation should be investigated. But your remarks on how he "should have" shot are invalid.

Cocktooth · 11-09-2003, 08:04 PM

haha well as far as im concerened im sure the student deserved it...i mean if they go to BSU that means they are a complete fuck up anyways and only care about smokin cheeb and sexual stuff....im the words of the greatest band ever...metallica....KILL EM ALL....HAHA

StabMaster Arson · 11-10-2003, 01:22 AM

hey maraudy, that sounds like something I've read before... or wrote.

the_butcher · 11-10-2003, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by Shaw:
haha well as far as im concerened im sure the student deserved it...i mean if they go to BSU that means they are a complete fuck up anyways and only care about smokin cheeb and sexual stuff....im the words of the greatest band ever...metallica....KILL EM ALL....HAHA

Wow. Wise words from a very wise man.

As far as the BSU student getting shot, that is COMPLETE bullshit. While I love shooting people, it sounds to me like this cop had a power dildo that was shoved way too far up his ass. To shoot someone in the chest 4 fucking times over a lunge...? I don't think so. That shit doesn't happen for no good reason. That cop was up to something...and as soon as I find out what it is. Well then, hell will break loose.

*hopes everyone realizes those last few sentences were complete movie rip offs

*doesn't actually give a fuck about this story

11-09-2003, 02:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
Fruitacious B Bokononist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,595 Internets: 11801	Granted, I'm not in college or anything, but it does seem like this guy was going crazy. I don't think the cop was totally out of line. Likewise, however, I don't think four shots were necesary.
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11-09-2003, 03:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
StabMaster Arson Roscoe P. Coldchain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stabbin Cabin Posts: 2,759 Internets: 1425	The standard protocal for police using their firearm is to stop advancement/movement... if the guy was still moving toward the officer, more shots were needed. They aren't trained to shoot to maim. In the same right, they are not to use their guns unless they are in immediate danger... I would like to know how well-lit the area was, how far the officer was from the kid, and a lot more factors before I pass judgement. From the facts given, it does sound very suspect. [ November 09, 2003, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: StabMaster Arson ]
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11-09-2003, 08:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cocktooth Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warsaw Posts: 4,220 Internets: 124047	haha well as far as im concerened im sure the student deserved it...i mean if they go to BSU that means they are a complete fuck up anyways and only care about smokin cheeb and sexual stuff....im the words of the greatest band ever...metallica....KILL EM ALL....HAHA
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11-10-2003, 01:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
StabMaster Arson Roscoe P. Coldchain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Stabbin Cabin Posts: 2,759 Internets: 1425	hey maraudy, that sounds like something I've read before... or wrote.
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11-09-2003, 03:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	I shoot BSU students for fun.

11-09-2003, 05:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
marauder543 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1 Internets: 10	Police officers are not trained to shoot to maime or even to specifically kill. Police officers are trained to shoot to "stop" and to aim for the main mass of the body, decreasing the chance of missing. Many times this does result in death. This situation is unfortunate, and I agree that the officer and the situation should be investigated. But your remarks on how he "should have" shot are invalid.