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11-11-2002, 10:00 PM

Haha, I really don't think Holiday had a chance @ the Heisman to begin with...

Dorsey will probably win it...but Willis McGahee has done a hell of a job contending considering he's a sophomore. With 17 touchdowns, he'll have the record for most TD's in a season by the end of this year. He's a huge pimp, and will clearly win the award either next year or the year after.

11-12-2002, 01:48 AM

Holiday definately never had a chance in hell...
I must say that BrassMonkees brought up some good points, but i still just can't see Miami winning it all.
My prediction, Miami and/or Ohio State will lose a game, we'll have 8 bloody teams with one loss, that damn bcs system will pick one of the 8 and everyone will just end up pissed off and thinking it should've been them...

buckeye · 11-12-2002, 11:24 AM

okay look at the ratings i posted cause they are offical bcs ratings. ND doesnt have a chance in hell of going ot the fiesta bowl.

1. The question you guys should be asking is whether you will make a bcs bowl or not. ND is not in a conference and therefore cannot be conference champs ). Conference champions are garuanteed a spot in a bcs bowl. So unless Miami loses which would send them to the rose bowl, they will not be in the bcs bowl, since the rose bowl wont select them over a big ten, or pac ten team.
2.they have washington state, oklahoma, texas, and georgia ahead of them in the fiesta bowl line. So unlesss we have 2 unprecendented upset saturdays, have fun at the toliet bowl.

now as far as people doubting ohio state let me ask you this question how many other teams have beaten a top 5 bcs team????
if ohio state remains unbeaten they will 1 month to rest clarett, and if he is 100% healthy, they have a good shot at miami.

as for the fan boy of that piece of shit college up north. navare is good tell he messes up, just wait till he throws and interception, or gets sacked a few times, he'll loose his composure and have a preformance similar to the one he had last year (4 ints i believe).... If you compare the secondary of Ohio State last year to this years you'll find it much improved. Now if they cant run the ball, and they had problems passing on ohio state last year, just how the hell do you expect to win?? Maybe if a bomb goes off in the ohio state locker room, thats the only way i see michigan winning. The buckeyes play very good at home, so the odds are against michigan, and narare might throw 5 ints this time around

note>> i have nothing against notre dame except when i am given crap by their fans.
p.s. what the hell type of rivarly is BC anyways?? how bout a real rivarly like ohio state and michigan

[This message has been edited by buckeye (edited November 12, 2002).]

BigDongedHoe · 11-12-2002, 12:25 PM

The BCS is definitely fucked up for sure. They need an 8 team playoff it would take 3 weeks and during that 3 weeks you can play the other bowl games. Although it would make all the other bowl games shit, when I really think about it they are pretty much shit right now.

Anyways yeah...it's good

:::BDH:::

buckeye · 11-12-2002, 12:38 PM

i agree with bdh, if you did that there wouldnt be as much controversy over which teams are #1, and #2, and it would still keep the regular season just as important.

11-12-2002, 01:14 PM

I completely agree. An 8 game playoff would be quite ideal for the college situation. Of course, the BCS will be in place through 2005...but after that, we can hope for some type of reform.

BrassMonkees · 11-12-2002, 05:25 PM

8 game playoff... i don't know. extending the season into december and everything. im just not sure about that one. As for the bcs, im actually kind of a fan. The excitement and contraversy that ensues every season brings me some twisted pleasure. I love watching people get mad when their team gets screwed over. I hate it when it affects my team however. The past few years that hasn't happened, so for now i like the bcs.

as for Buckeye, I am a loyal fan to the death. the wolverines are far superior to ohio state when you look at the big picture. As for this year, im not so sure. Upon furthur research, i am quite worried that Michigan will fall in 2 weeks. Ohio state could go all the way im afraid. They might give miami a run for their money also. Lets look at the facts. Michigan has poor linebackers right now due to the wealth of injuries they are suffering from. If they get healed by the ohio state game, we'll see. Their secondary isn't really that bad either. THey have a couple of frosh who are the best in the biznaz. As for the offense, we'll see how they do. Perry and askew are good, a 1-2 punch. And Navarre has improved so much the past 3 weeks, it is ridiculous to even compare him to last year. He is for real. One of the best QB's in the Big ten. 3rd i believe in passing yards. As for ohio state, they will be at home. I don't know about you, but im pretty excited about that game. The biggest games seem to occur in buckeye territory. especially when there is an upset to be had. look at history, whenever there is a number 1 or 2 in the big ten, going into the final week, they almost always get upset. watch out for that. if anyone is going to give it to them, it will be the boys in maze and blue. if ohio does get through the big ten unscathed, they could give miami a run. only if clarett is 110%. otherwise forget it. they don't have what it takes for a national championship without him. Final prediction = Michigan still comes out on top in two weeks.

BrassMonkees · 11-12-2002, 05:36 PM

i forgot to add that if the game between michigan and ohio state comes down to field goals, michigan will be screwed. their kicking team sucks so bad its ridiculous.

buckeye · 11-13-2002, 02:13 AM

Well basically what you just said brassmonkees, is that ohio state has about the edge in every way shape or form against michigan. As for Navarre, he had 4 ints all season long before the osu/michigan game, then managed to match the number. He hasnt faced a defense all year as good as Ohio State's so he will have trouble. Perry and askew are good running backs yes, but Ohio State has already shut down a much better one by the name of larry johnson, and held the #2 (or #3 coming into the game) rush offense of minnesota to under 100 yards. Even when people are running a spread offense Ohio State is shutting down running games. Navare will be forced to pass on a defense that will be prepared to defend it. He wont be able to pick on gamble, unless he doesnt like his starting job, and good luck throwing on the best secondary in the big ten. So unless Ohio State starts turning the ball over, i dont seem michigan putting one in the end zone> I do believe you just commented on how bad their field goal unit was, so sounds like they might get in the red zone, will get stopped, and then be forced to kick a field goal....hmmm sounds good for the buckeyes. A win over michigan will have them motivated for the fiesta bowl, as for michigan, bring some tepee, cause its off to the toliet bowl.

BigDongedHoe · 11-13-2002, 12:18 PM

BrassMonkees you idiot the football season already does go into december not to mention the National Title game isn't till arond Jan. 4th or 5th. An 8 game play-off would be more than easy enough to handle especially since they get like 4 weeks off in between there final game of the year and the national title game.

buckeye · 11-13-2002, 01:07 PM

well teams that play in conference championships would be screwed because those games are either thanksgiving weekend, or the one following.

Ugly Bastard · 11-13-2002, 02:30 PM

After Byron Leftwich's huge 0-0 for 0 yds performance last night. I would have to think that Ken Dorsey has the Heisman locked now (assuming that he plays every game and the 'Canes win from here on...)

Honestly though, who else is going to give Dorsey a good run? McGahee could...but they'll give it to Dorsey 'cause it's his last year.

-Ugly Bastard

BrassMonkees · 11-13-2002, 04:47 PM

im still not a fan of an 8 team playoff. the current system is good enough for now. and i know the season goes into december dumb ass. i meant deep into december, closer to christmas time.

either way it doesn't really matter, both systems would work fine, but the playoff seems like it would take away a little bit from the regular season, turn it into more of an nfl type setup. i would definately hate that

buckeye · 11-13-2002, 11:56 PM

well if they only took the top 8 teams in the bcs, it would still make the regular season important, but yes it would take away some, compared to that of only taking two teams. 8 teams would also allow so that the 6 major conference champions would get a spot in a bcs bowl, and 2 at large teams would also be selected. I believe 8 teams is the way to go.

Ugly Bastard · 11-21-2002, 05:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Orgazmo:
Miami falls to Virginia Tech.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was Orgazmo's prediction a few weeks ago.

I'd imagine Virginia Tech will have a tough time upsetting Miami if they can't even "upset" West Virginia

-Ugly Bastard

11-21-2002, 07:13 PM

Haha, fuck you

Yeah, I really thought they had a chance...even after their 2 losses in a row...but now with 3...I'm starting to doubt. They may go out there wanting to prove something with their final game though...and the canes may take them lightly b/c of their lackluster performances as of late. That could lead to the upset. We'll see...

buckeye · 11-21-2002, 09:39 PM

alright here are my predictions for the weekend.

osu over michigan
pitt over miami
texas tech over oklahoma
(kingsbury passes for 450 yards and makes him a frontrunner for the heisman)

Ugly Bastard · 11-21-2002, 09:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buckeye:
alright here are my predictions for the weekend.

pitt over miami
texas tech over oklahoma
(kingsbury passes for 450 yards and makes him a frontrunner for the heisman)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The word "Wise" is not frequently used to discribe you, is it?

-Ugly Bastard

buckeye · 11-21-2002, 09:59 PM

hahha, i called the texas upset last week, i have faith in the red raiders of texas tech. I really think they can pull it off.

as for miami, well i think they will be upset this season, and if there is a team left to do it is pitt.

if i call those 2 games right i am turning my application into espn college gameday. Corso sucks balls anyways.

[This message has been edited by buckeye (edited November 21, 2002).]

Ugly Bastard · 11-22-2002, 01:22 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buckeye:
pitt over miami
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good Work buckeye. If you would have flipped those two teams around, you would have been right.

Go 'Canes.

-Ugly Bastard

buckeye · 11-22-2002, 01:33 AM

hmm, well the bastards sholdnt have fumbled in the red zone. that was the ball game right there. if your trying for an upset, you cant have big plays against you, or turnovers.

But got to admit pitt dominated the first half.

Ugly Bastard · 11-22-2002, 01:34 AM

Yes Pitt dominated the first half.

But that doesn't mean shit. It's what the score says when the game is over.

How long till you guys realize that Miami isn't going to lose the rest of the year?

-Ugly Bastard

11-11-2002, 10:00 PM	#26 (permalink)
Orgazmo Guest Posts: n/a	Haha, I really don't think Holiday had a chance @ the Heisman to begin with... Dorsey will probably win it...but Willis McGahee has done a hell of a job contending considering he's a sophomore. With 17 touchdowns, he'll have the record for most TD's in a season by the end of this year. He's a huge pimp, and will clearly win the award either next year or the year after.
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11-12-2002, 01:48 AM	#27 (permalink)
wintergrey Guest Posts: n/a	Holiday definately never had a chance in hell... I must say that BrassMonkees brought up some good points, but i still just can't see Miami winning it all. My prediction, Miami and/or Ohio State will lose a game, we'll have 8 bloody teams with one loss, that damn bcs system will pick one of the 8 and everyone will just end up pissed off and thinking it should've been them...
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11-12-2002, 01:14 PM	#31 (permalink)
Orgazmo Guest Posts: n/a	I completely agree. An 8 game playoff would be quite ideal for the college situation. Of course, the BCS will be in place through 2005...but after that, we can hope for some type of reform.
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11-21-2002, 07:13 PM	#41 (permalink)
Orgazmo Guest Posts: n/a	Haha, fuck you Yeah, I really thought they had a chance...even after their 2 losses in a row...but now with 3...I'm starting to doubt. They may go out there wanting to prove something with their final game though...and the canes may take them lightly b/c of their lackluster performances as of late. That could lead to the upset. We'll see...
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11-12-2002, 11:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	okay look at the ratings i posted cause they are offical bcs ratings. ND doesnt have a chance in hell of going ot the fiesta bowl. 1. The question you guys should be asking is whether you will make a bcs bowl or not. ND is not in a conference and therefore cannot be conference champs ). Conference champions are garuanteed a spot in a bcs bowl. So unless Miami loses which would send them to the rose bowl, they will not be in the bcs bowl, since the rose bowl wont select them over a big ten, or pac ten team. 2.they have washington state, oklahoma, texas, and georgia ahead of them in the fiesta bowl line. So unlesss we have 2 unprecendented upset saturdays, have fun at the toliet bowl. now as far as people doubting ohio state let me ask you this question how many other teams have beaten a top 5 bcs team???? if ohio state remains unbeaten they will 1 month to rest clarett, and if he is 100% healthy, they have a good shot at miami. as for the fan boy of that piece of shit college up north. navare is good tell he messes up, just wait till he throws and interception, or gets sacked a few times, he'll loose his composure and have a preformance similar to the one he had last year (4 ints i believe).... If you compare the secondary of Ohio State last year to this years you'll find it much improved. Now if they cant run the ball, and they had problems passing on ohio state last year, just how the hell do you expect to win?? Maybe if a bomb goes off in the ohio state locker room, thats the only way i see michigan winning. The buckeyes play very good at home, so the odds are against michigan, and narare might throw 5 ints this time around note>> i have nothing against notre dame except when i am given crap by their fans. p.s. what the hell type of rivarly is BC anyways?? how bout a real rivarly like ohio state and michigan [This message has been edited by buckeye (edited November 12, 2002).]

11-12-2002, 12:25 PM	#29 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	The BCS is definitely fucked up for sure. They need an 8 team playoff it would take 3 weeks and during that 3 weeks you can play the other bowl games. Although it would make all the other bowl games shit, when I really think about it they are pretty much shit right now. Anyways yeah...it's good :::BDH:::

11-12-2002, 12:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	i agree with bdh, if you did that there wouldnt be as much controversy over which teams are #1, and #2, and it would still keep the regular season just as important.

11-12-2002, 05:25 PM	#32 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	8 game playoff... i don't know. extending the season into december and everything. im just not sure about that one. As for the bcs, im actually kind of a fan. The excitement and contraversy that ensues every season brings me some twisted pleasure. I love watching people get mad when their team gets screwed over. I hate it when it affects my team however. The past few years that hasn't happened, so for now i like the bcs. as for Buckeye, I am a loyal fan to the death. the wolverines are far superior to ohio state when you look at the big picture. As for this year, im not so sure. Upon furthur research, i am quite worried that Michigan will fall in 2 weeks. Ohio state could go all the way im afraid. They might give miami a run for their money also. Lets look at the facts. Michigan has poor linebackers right now due to the wealth of injuries they are suffering from. If they get healed by the ohio state game, we'll see. Their secondary isn't really that bad either. THey have a couple of frosh who are the best in the biznaz. As for the offense, we'll see how they do. Perry and askew are good, a 1-2 punch. And Navarre has improved so much the past 3 weeks, it is ridiculous to even compare him to last year. He is for real. One of the best QB's in the Big ten. 3rd i believe in passing yards. As for ohio state, they will be at home. I don't know about you, but im pretty excited about that game. The biggest games seem to occur in buckeye territory. especially when there is an upset to be had. look at history, whenever there is a number 1 or 2 in the big ten, going into the final week, they almost always get upset. watch out for that. if anyone is going to give it to them, it will be the boys in maze and blue. if ohio does get through the big ten unscathed, they could give miami a run. only if clarett is 110%. otherwise forget it. they don't have what it takes for a national championship without him. Final prediction = Michigan still comes out on top in two weeks.

11-12-2002, 05:36 PM	#33 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	i forgot to add that if the game between michigan and ohio state comes down to field goals, michigan will be screwed. their kicking team sucks so bad its ridiculous.

11-13-2002, 02:13 AM	#34 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	Well basically what you just said brassmonkees, is that ohio state has about the edge in every way shape or form against michigan. As for Navarre, he had 4 ints all season long before the osu/michigan game, then managed to match the number. He hasnt faced a defense all year as good as Ohio State's so he will have trouble. Perry and askew are good running backs yes, but Ohio State has already shut down a much better one by the name of larry johnson, and held the #2 (or #3 coming into the game) rush offense of minnesota to under 100 yards. Even when people are running a spread offense Ohio State is shutting down running games. Navare will be forced to pass on a defense that will be prepared to defend it. He wont be able to pick on gamble, unless he doesnt like his starting job, and good luck throwing on the best secondary in the big ten. So unless Ohio State starts turning the ball over, i dont seem michigan putting one in the end zone> I do believe you just commented on how bad their field goal unit was, so sounds like they might get in the red zone, will get stopped, and then be forced to kick a field goal....hmmm sounds good for the buckeyes. A win over michigan will have them motivated for the fiesta bowl, as for michigan, bring some tepee, cause its off to the toliet bowl.

11-13-2002, 12:18 PM	#35 (permalink)
BigDongedHoe Sex Kitten Milf fuuucck Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 3,704 Internets: 55974	BrassMonkees you idiot the football season already does go into december not to mention the National Title game isn't till arond Jan. 4th or 5th. An 8 game play-off would be more than easy enough to handle especially since they get like 4 weeks off in between there final game of the year and the national title game.

11-13-2002, 01:07 PM	#36 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	well teams that play in conference championships would be screwed because those games are either thanksgiving weekend, or the one following.

11-13-2002, 02:30 PM	#37 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	After Byron Leftwich's huge 0-0 for 0 yds performance last night. I would have to think that Ken Dorsey has the Heisman locked now (assuming that he plays every game and the 'Canes win from here on...) Honestly though, who else is going to give Dorsey a good run? McGahee could...but they'll give it to Dorsey 'cause it's his last year. -Ugly Bastard

11-13-2002, 04:47 PM	#38 (permalink)
BrassMonkees Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: winona lake Posts: 840 Internets: 10	im still not a fan of an 8 team playoff. the current system is good enough for now. and i know the season goes into december dumb ass. i meant deep into december, closer to christmas time. either way it doesn't really matter, both systems would work fine, but the playoff seems like it would take away a little bit from the regular season, turn it into more of an nfl type setup. i would definately hate that

11-13-2002, 11:56 PM	#39 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	well if they only took the top 8 teams in the bcs, it would still make the regular season important, but yes it would take away some, compared to that of only taking two teams. 8 teams would also allow so that the 6 major conference champions would get a spot in a bcs bowl, and 2 at large teams would also be selected. I believe 8 teams is the way to go.

11-21-2002, 05:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Orgazmo: Miami falls to Virginia Tech.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> That was Orgazmo's prediction a few weeks ago. I'd imagine Virginia Tech will have a tough time upsetting Miami if they can't even "upset" West Virginia -Ugly Bastard

11-21-2002, 09:39 PM	#42 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	alright here are my predictions for the weekend. osu over michigan pitt over miami texas tech over oklahoma (kingsbury passes for 450 yards and makes him a frontrunner for the heisman)

11-21-2002, 09:51 PM	#43 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buckeye: alright here are my predictions for the weekend. pitt over miami texas tech over oklahoma (kingsbury passes for 450 yards and makes him a frontrunner for the heisman)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> The word "Wise" is not frequently used to discribe you, is it? -Ugly Bastard

11-21-2002, 09:59 PM	#44 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	hahha, i called the texas upset last week, i have faith in the red raiders of texas tech. I really think they can pull it off. as for miami, well i think they will be upset this season, and if there is a team left to do it is pitt. if i call those 2 games right i am turning my application into espn college gameday. Corso sucks balls anyways. [This message has been edited by buckeye (edited November 21, 2002).]

11-22-2002, 01:22 AM	#45 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buckeye: pitt over miami <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Good Work buckeye. If you would have flipped those two teams around, you would have been right. Go 'Canes. -Ugly Bastard

11-22-2002, 01:33 AM	#46 (permalink)
buckeye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,100 Internets: 10	hmm, well the bastards sholdnt have fumbled in the red zone. that was the ball game right there. if your trying for an upset, you cant have big plays against you, or turnovers. But got to admit pitt dominated the first half.

11-22-2002, 01:34 AM	#47 (permalink)
Ugly Bastard Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 13,643 Internets: 247330	Yes Pitt dominated the first half. But that doesn't mean shit. It's what the score says when the game is over. How long till you guys realize that Miami isn't going to lose the rest of the year? -Ugly Bastard