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angry pancake · 06-14-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Gentlemen, we have a Finals.

The better series was Spurs-Mavs.

Repugnant Abomination · 06-14-2006, 11:31 AM

Well duh.

angry pancake · 06-14-2006, 12:27 PM

AP's analysis so far.

Going into game 3, Miami has to win 4 out of 5 to prevail. It took Dallas letting off the gas on both ends of the floor, Wade going Jordan like nuts, Dirk missing a free throw, for the Heat to win a two point game at home. Dallas has the potential to beat Miami by 30 in any given game. In the five games they've played this season, that was the only one decided by fewer than 10 points. Miami needs it's A+ game to beat Dallas' C+ game. Games 1 and 3 prove that. The sloppy way both of these teams have played in the finals, the Clippers would be up 3-0 against either. I never thought that through 3 games Shaq would only be marginally better than Erick Dampier.

angry pancake · 06-14-2006, 12:29 PM

AP will rush the court if the Mav's win in 6 or 7.

f3lix · 06-14-2006, 01:23 PM

Shaq - All NBA 1st Team
Wade - All NBA 2nd Team

The injustice still angers me

Repugnant Abomination · 06-14-2006, 01:38 PM

Nigga please. Shaq is still the #1 center in the game. All the haters are just foaming at the mouth that he's "struggling" in this series. Look here bitches, the only place Shaq is struggling is at the foul line. Let's look beyond the numbers to see what's really happening:

Shaq is being doubled, often tripled team! He's no longer as dominant as he once was, but he's still dominant. Otherwise they wouldn't be throwing multiple 7 footers at him everytime he touches the ball. The real problem lies in Miami's role players. Game 2 Shaq made the right pass out of the double/triple teams everytime but it was the role players who failed to knock down the open shots (often times missing layups!). Had the players been hitting their shots nobody would be saying shit about Shaq right now. Not only would he have a lot more assists, but if they hit their WIDE OPEN SHOTS that forces Dallas to have to actually guard the perimeter and not load up down low. Suddenly Shaq has mad assists and is getting the ball for 1 on 1 situations. If you don't think Shaq would be eating Dampier up then you're stupid.

Also, Dwayne Wade, other than game 3, has been stinking it up. This is a guy who should be drawing double teams as well, taking more of the pressure off Shaq. He did that in game 3 and the result? Heat win, and Shaq has a 16/11/5 game. Not too bad.

With that said I say Dallas in 5. Too young, too athletic, too deep. They have a 10 man rotation for crying out loud!

angry pancake · 06-14-2006, 05:04 PM

Shaq's not eating Dampier up while running the offense through him and that's the point. That and you have to take into account that the last time anybody ran a play for Dampier was in Golden State. Shaq's been double teamed his entire fucking career and still got the numbers. He seems like a slower version of himself. I think Shaq has 0 blocked shots this series and Dampier had 14-9 and 3 steals in 8 less minutes against Shaq in game 3. WTF is up with that? Shaq should have 35-20 on Dampier. The only thing Dampier was expected to do was collect 6 fouls on Shaq. Even as bad as Shaq is playing, he's still better than Dampier, but the gap is closer than expected through 3 games. Shaq could still go nuts on Dampier, I was expecting it at least twice so far.

Dallas should win in 5 because Antoine Walker gets 35 minutes per night and Keith "the spare" Van Horn gets only 9-10. Whichever liability plays less is the real key to this series.

f3lix · 06-15-2006, 01:26 PM

Shaq, best center in the league, yes. Worthy of First Team all NBA for a dismal SEASON, not just playoffs, no. That team should have been GGGFF. Wade has played through every injury on the planet this year and still put up incredible numbers. A sinus infection and 42 points!?!? Seriously. Wade doesn't need to pass when double and triple teamed, b/c he is a play-maker. I have no idea why you compared Shaq to Dampier. Why not Diop, while you're at it?

angry pancake · 06-15-2006, 02:55 PM

Cause all of Dampier's minutes are against Shaq. Diop is only playing maybe 4-5 minutes per game with Shaq on the floor. Usually the first 2.5 of the first and third periods. When Mourning comes in, Dampier usually goes out. Nobody is saying Dampier is any good if that's what anybody is thinking. I'm just saying Shaq is much better than Dampier but has been way off for three games so far.

Not buying the Wade's not healthy thing either. He's perpetually not healthy and goes off all the time. He scored 42 on a bad knee and coming off an inflamed hip while having sinus infection and being out of midol. When the ball goes up, there's nothing wrong with Wade.

angry pancake · 06-16-2006, 12:33 AM

Good God that was an ass kicking.

Ugly Bastard · 06-16-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Gentlemen, we have a Finals.

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angry pancake · 06-18-2006, 11:50 PM

I'll go ahead and throw in the towel. Two Dallas chokes in the finals. It just looks like the ball has bounced Miami's way.

Repugnant Abomination · 06-19-2006, 12:29 AM

What an incredible game. D.Wade has become the man.

angry pancake · 06-19-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

What an incredible game. D.Wade has become the man.

Yeah, he's far and away the best player in this series --even when he has a bad game. He shot as many free throws as the entire Mavericks team. Nowitzki has become a liability on both ends and Riley absolutely pwned Avery Johnson.

Some folks here are bitching about the officiating i.e. 18-0 free throws in the third quarter, back court violation on the last play of the game, etc. But the bottom line is, in the final if you choke twice, you don't win. Too many things have happened that just look bad, like the lowest points ever scored in a quarter, biggest lead lost in the 4th quarter, only second time road team won all three games. It all spells loss. This ain't the same team that beat the Spurs.

f3lix · 06-19-2006, 03:02 PM

I wouldn't count out the Mavs. There hasn't been a road win yet, and the Mavs are surely not going to go down without a huge fight (Maybe hack-a-Shaq for the majority of the game with the bottom of the bench). I don't see Cuban giving up, plus Stackhouse will be back. This one is going to game 7.

Repugnant Abomination · 06-19-2006, 06:33 PM

It wasn't a backcourt violation.

Dirk is not a liability. He made two CLUTCH shots down the stretch to keep the mavs alive.

This is far from over.

Orgazmo · 06-19-2006, 07:24 PM

Far from over, I'll agree with that; however, if Sir Wade can play at a level resembling anything he's done the past 3 games, I don't know how the Mavericks will be able to stop das Heat.

angry pancake · 06-20-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

It wasn't a backcourt violation.

When I said some people, I meant folks like Mark Cuban.

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Originally Posted by Repugnant Abomination

Dirk is not a liability. He made two CLUTCH shots down the stretch to keep the mavs alive.

Dirk's guy is scoring at will. Hell sometimes, I'm not sure who Dirk is guarding. After the double team, he doesn't pick up anybody. He's been out hustled for rebounds. To be fair, Dirk has never been a great defensive stopper. He's been decent at time. But for whateverever reason, he's returned back into a jump shooter. Only his shot ain't really been there. Neither Haslam, nor Posey have shit on Bruce Bowen when it comes to defense. He hasn't been the same since Shaq put an elbow upside his head in early game 1. The Mavs as a team have turned into a jump shooting team that doesn't play defense but for a few minutes per game. It's fucking been disgusting to watch them play like this. The Spurs have to be watching this wondering how in the fuck did Dallas beat them.

Anyway, I'll be at game six bitches.

angry pancake · 06-20-2006, 11:43 PM

Told you so. Also, nice to see Dirk have another game with no buckets in the 4th quarter. I believe that makes four games out of six where that happened.

Not one of you fuckers can honestly say that this wasn't one of the worst chokes in the history of a seven game series.

I'd like to give props to Miami, but they're a piece of shit team that really had no business winning the NBA championship, but somebody had to win it and Miami seemed to want it and Dallas just seemed happy to be there. What a let down from a really good first three rounds.

Beebs · 06-21-2006, 12:46 AM

Jason Williams is the starting point guard for the NBA champs, that just flat out kicks ass.

angry pancake · 06-21-2006, 01:09 AM

Don't forget Antoine Walker starts at forward. I think I'm going to throw up in my mouth now.

Repugnant Abomination · 06-21-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by angry pancake

I'd like to give props to Miami, but they're a piece of shit team that really had no business winning the NBA championship, but somebody had to win it and Miami seemed to want it and Dallas just seemed happy to be there. What a let down from a really good first three rounds.

Um, what? No business winning the NBA championship? Any TEAM that goes through Detroit has business going all the way. Why are they a piece of shit? Cause they beat your City? I actually think this is a pretty good team. You can say what you want to about Zo, Payton, Williams and Walker, but the fact is all of those guys showed up this series and played pretty well. If any team is a piece of shit team right now it would have to be Dallas. After the Spurs series I really thought they were going to win it all...But they became soft over night. Total choke job. What's sad is Dirk is going to take the blame for most of this...I guess 29 points and 15 rebounds isn't enough? It's never enough unless you win I guess.

Did anyone catch Alonzo's speech at the podium after the game? That shit was inspirational..

angry pancake · 06-21-2006, 02:39 AM

Did you watch this series? Yeah, Dallas choked. I think I said something about it being the biggest choke job in series history. Did Dallas suddenly go soft. Yeah.

29-15 isn't enough when you make zero baskets from the field in the 4th quarter for (I'm pretty sure) 4 out of 6 games. Why? cause he started jacking up 3's and fade away jumpers that were open. The motherfucker didn't even attempt his second three of the playoffs until sometime ridiculous like late in the Phoenix series. I don't give a fuck about 29 when it comes with shooting 35% to get it. You do understand that don't you? Did you see that pass to Dampier with less than a minute? He didn't guard anybody. Really, he didn't guard anybody.

I saw a team blow double digit leads in three games and Miami broke 100 once (in overtime). What did Miami do --nothing. Dallas missed opened shots and often didn't have anybody on the glass. Jesus, there was period when Shaq and Zo were both on the bench and what Dallas do? Never once tried to go to the basket.

Don't get me wrong, Dallas deserved to lose this series and should've lost this series with the way they played. The Mavericks would've had trouble beating the Knicks the way they played against Miami. And I am pissed off about it, I think it was a blown opportunity that might not happen any time soon. But, don't tell me Miami is a great team. The fucking turn the ball over 20 times per game! They're a piss poor shooting team that scored 25 percent of its points from the foul line in the last two games. What I won't do is blame the officials for that. Wade stepped up and attacked. Dirk shot fade away jumpers and flopped.

The Mavericks played like shit and I really don't see how they could've beaten anybody with the effort they put forth this series. This not the same team that beat the Spurs last month. And yeah, I'm pissed off about it. If it wasn't Miami in the finals, it still would've been somebody other than Dallas winning it.

Repugnant Abomination · 06-21-2006, 06:20 AM

All valid points. I can understand how frustrated you must feel as a Dallas fan right now. But look on the bright side: You have a core group of young player who learned a lot and are only going to get better, same goes for the coach. And even though Cuban can be a little hard to swallow sometimes he is one of the best and most involved owners in the NBA. I want to say Dallas has nowhere to go but up, but that would mean they have to win next year. I'm not sure that's going to happen. But they will be contenders for years to come.

Oh, and unless Miami makes some major moves this summer there is no way they are repeating...

angry pancake · 06-21-2006, 07:24 AM

Next morning. After drunk has gone away and a few hours of sleep and painfully rereading prior posts.

Miami was the better team and wanted it more. Everything else was angry drunk talk.

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06-14-2006, 11:31 AM	#77 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Well duh.

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f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Shaq - All NBA 1st Team Wade - All NBA 2nd Team The injustice still angers me

06-14-2006, 01:38 PM	#81 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	Nigga please. Shaq is still the #1 center in the game. All the haters are just foaming at the mouth that he's "struggling" in this series. Look here bitches, the only place Shaq is struggling is at the foul line. Let's look beyond the numbers to see what's really happening: Shaq is being doubled, often tripled team! He's no longer as dominant as he once was, but he's still dominant. Otherwise they wouldn't be throwing multiple 7 footers at him everytime he touches the ball. The real problem lies in Miami's role players. Game 2 Shaq made the right pass out of the double/triple teams everytime but it was the role players who failed to knock down the open shots (often times missing layups!). Had the players been hitting their shots nobody would be saying shit about Shaq right now. Not only would he have a lot more assists, but if they hit their WIDE OPEN SHOTS that forces Dallas to have to actually guard the perimeter and not load up down low. Suddenly Shaq has mad assists and is getting the ball for 1 on 1 situations. If you don't think Shaq would be eating Dampier up then you're stupid. Also, Dwayne Wade, other than game 3, has been stinking it up. This is a guy who should be drawing double teams as well, taking more of the pressure off Shaq. He did that in game 3 and the result? Heat win, and Shaq has a 16/11/5 game. Not too bad. With that said I say Dallas in 5. Too young, too athletic, too deep. They have a 10 man rotation for crying out loud!

06-15-2006, 01:26 PM	#83 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	Shaq, best center in the league, yes. Worthy of First Team all NBA for a dismal SEASON, not just playoffs, no. That team should have been GGGFF. Wade has played through every injury on the planet this year and still put up incredible numbers. A sinus infection and 42 points!?!? Seriously. Wade doesn't need to pass when double and triple teamed, b/c he is a play-maker. I have no idea why you compared Shaq to Dampier. Why not Diop, while you're at it?

06-19-2006, 12:29 AM	#88 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	What an incredible game. D.Wade has become the man.

06-19-2006, 03:02 PM	#90 (permalink)
f3lix Gangnam Style Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DH's Massage Parlor Posts: 6,383 Internets: 213510	I wouldn't count out the Mavs. There hasn't been a road win yet, and the Mavs are surely not going to go down without a huge fight (Maybe hack-a-Shaq for the majority of the game with the bottom of the bench). I don't see Cuban giving up, plus Stackhouse will be back. This one is going to game 7.

06-19-2006, 06:33 PM	#91 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	It wasn't a backcourt violation. Dirk is not a liability. He made two CLUTCH shots down the stretch to keep the mavs alive. This is far from over.

06-19-2006, 07:24 PM	#92 (permalink)
Orgazmo COME ON YOU YANKS Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 15,733 Internets: 311447	Far from over, I'll agree with that; however, if Sir Wade can play at a level resembling anything he's done the past 3 games, I don't know how the Mavericks will be able to stop das Heat.

06-21-2006, 12:46 AM	#95 (permalink)
Beebs Poor Sport Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis / Middlebury / Long Lake Posts: 5,306 Internets: 127341	Jason Williams is the starting point guard for the NBA champs, that just flat out kicks ass.

06-21-2006, 06:20 AM	#99 (permalink)
Repugnant Abomination Almost there... Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,979 Internets: 164547	All valid points. I can understand how frustrated you must feel as a Dallas fan right now. But look on the bright side: You have a core group of young player who learned a lot and are only going to get better, same goes for the coach. And even though Cuban can be a little hard to swallow sometimes he is one of the best and most involved owners in the NBA. I want to say Dallas has nowhere to go but up, but that would mean they have to win next year. I'm not sure that's going to happen. But they will be contenders for years to come. Oh, and unless Miami makes some major moves this summer there is no way they are repeating...