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[Fruitacious B]

Would straight people have psychological problems if they were insecure?

[AcTivE]

Would you be insecure if you dropped your pants in front of a bunch of gay men?

If so, you are insecure.

Would you be insecure if your mom asked you to fuck?

If so, you are insecure.

Would you be insecure if your dad said, 'Bend over, so I can stick this spoon in your ass and get you off?;

If so, you are insecure.

Do you have psychological problems?

[Fruitacious B]

Would you be insecure if you felt uncofortable if in basic social company with a gay man?

Yes, you would.

[AcTivE]

Thanks, why don't you just post for me. I'll give you my login if you like.

Heck, why Don't I just call you 'God', you seem to know all.

You never answered any of my questions...hmm.

Faggot.

[Fruitacious B]

Your only real answer to why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed is just that it's simply "wrong" or "immoral". I'm not being nearly as vague as you are.

Homophobe.

[AcTivE]

Again, you have never answered my questions. I have answered all questions directed towards me.

Faggot.

[Fruitacious B]

Q & A Time

Heck, why Don't I just call you 'God'.

Okay, sounds like a plan, at least you're beginning to understand.

[quote]Would you be insecure if you dropped your pants in front of a bunch of gay men?[quote]
Yes, would you be insecure if you dropped your pants in front of a group of women? And don't go into any "no I wouldn't, I'm a pimp will-fuck-anything-with-a-vagina" guy bullshit.

Would you be insecure if your dad said, 'Bend over, so I can stick this spoon in your ass and get you off?;

Yes, but this isn't about incest. The only thing your going out against is homosexuality as whole. Your "floodgates" seem to think that they're going to allow any two men to marry. Incest will still be illegal, dumbfuck.

Do you have psychological problems?

Yes, but they're nothing like yours are.
Next?

[ February 29, 2004, 01:57 AM: Message edited by: Fruitacious B ]

[AcTivE]

1) never said anything about floodgates.

2) Seems you would find comfort in somebody believing what you do...hmm. Looks like I would have been right if you continuined that thread.

They'd 'be'? You are fucked up. I'm living the present...

this post has about as much substance as yours.

faggot.

[ February 29, 2004, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]

[Fruitacious B]

Time period problem....Fixed. *see recent edit*

My post didn't have substance?

Your entire argumnet has lacked substance of any kind. Obviously. Coruption, that's what it is.

[Mr. Blonde]

Corruption? Just checking. I may be a little fucked up, but i dont see substance in any of these posts anyways, including my previous ones. Does anybody even know what for sure we're arguing about right now? If you could tell me please do so i can get back on track again.

[Fruitacious B]

Gay Marriage, that's what we were initially arguing about, now it's gotten to bitchy little bickering over the tense of my posts, and infantile homosexual insults.

[AcTivE]

Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
Time period problem....Fixed. *see recent edit*

My post didn't have substance?

Your entire argumnet has lacked substance of any kind. Obviously. Coruption, that's what it is.

My argument is that it will result in corruption. Plain and simple.

To me--no it would not corrupt me. I don't believe it would corrupt any of you either. That is not my point.

[Fruitacious B]

So all you really wanted to say is that you're afraid that it might corrupt your presently non-existant children? Strong argument...

[AcTivE]

Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
Gay Marriage, that's what we were initially arguing about, now it's gotten to bitchy little bickering over the tense of my posts, and infantile homosexual insults.

Tense was not the pont. I simply did not understand what you were getting at. Now I think I may.

I have psychological problems because I am concerned about the future--and corruption of people who can not yet differentiate between what should be, and what is?

Male and Male sex is wrong. Same as Female and Female sex.

Simply because that's not what humans were made for.

I have no problem with people living their lives that way--but when it is accepted in such a way that it becomes an alternative OPTION as opposed to a CHOICE, it gives me reason to argue.

[AcTivE]

Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
So all you really wanted to say is that you're afraid that it might corrupt your presently non-existant children? Strong argument...

Yes it is. If you can not understand that, then the argument stops here.

[Fruitacious B]

Who are you to be able to say what what humans were made for?

Originally posted by AcTivE:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
So all you really wanted to say is that you're afraid that it might corrupt your presently non-existant children? Strong argument...

Yes it is. If you can not understand that, then the argument stops here.</font>[/quote]Great, glad we got that figured out.

[AcTivE]

Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
Who are you to be able to say what what humans were made for?

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by AcTivE:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
So all you really wanted to say is that you're afraid that it might corrupt your presently non-existant children? Strong argument...

Yes it is. If you can not understand that, then the argument stops here.</font>[/quote]Great, glad we got that figured out.</font>[/quote]dictionary.com

sex
1)
The property or quality by which organisms are classified as female or male on the basis of their reproductive organs and functions.
2)
Either of the two divisions, designated female and male, of this classification.
4)The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior.

male
1)Of, relating to, or designating the sex that has organs to produce spermatozoa for fertilizing ova.

female
1)Of or denoting the sex that produces ova or bears young.

I'm educated. My society tells me the way that it is supposed to be.

Sex is to create life, and for pleasure. Ultimately--for life. There is pleasure so that we will do it, and create life.

Life is not created when you jizz in an asshole. Or maybe it is. Maybe I'm just not educated enough about how exactly gayness results in life.

[ February 29, 2004, 02:16 AM: Message edited by: AcTivE ]

[Fruitacious B]

4)The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior.

So you're not going to elaborate on this one?

[ February 29, 2004, 02:19 AM: Message edited by: Fruitacious B ]

[Mr. Blonde]

Fruitacious, by now i have come to the conclusion that to put up this big of an argument you must be gay. So please dont be offended when i call you a FAGGOT.

Originally posted by Fruitacious B: Who are you to be able to say what what humans were made for?

That may be the most fucking retarded thing i've ever heard in my life. Everybody knows that biologically males and females are SUPPOSED to mate. There is no proof that anything GOOD comes from homosexual relations. This has nothing to do with religion, so you dont have that throw back at me. Basic biological knowledge tells us this. And on top of that, even if we do go by religion, is there any religion that supports homosexuality? I may be wrong on that because i dont know every religion, but most likely whatever it is, most homosexuals don't worship it. Bitch

[AcTivE]

Originally posted by Fruitacious B:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />4)The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior.

So you're not going to elaborate on this one?</font>[/quote]You are an idiot. If you can not understand the definition, kill yourself. It's not a very hard concept. Males are supposed to have sex with females. That's why life exists. That's why animals exists. There is creation.

Lets see how long life exists putting a bunch of males in a cage with each other. Sure--they'll eventually have sex. But I'd like to see their ova create another.

You are so fucking stupid.

[Fruitacious B]

I am not being stupid in any way. There's not one implication torward either male or female preference in the statement "The sexual urge or instinct as it manifests itself in behavior." What if the sexual urge or instinct is torward someone of the same gender. I'm not gay, fuckers, I'm just showing the other side of the argument using points more legitimate than "It's just wrong" or "It's not meant to be that way". You can't say that you have the power to determine how other people choose to live their lives, or what actions they make. It's inconstitutional
Mr. Blonde.
There's no proof that anything bad comes from homosexuality either. Unless of course if making you and Active uncomfortable doesn't count. Please don't just lower yourself to saying that the statements are retarded, when all you can seem to think is that you have the ability to decide exactly what people should assume is right or supposed to be.

You both are blinded by your dumb-as-fuck morals and reasonings. Dumbasses.

[AcTivE]

I'm not saying people can not choose to live their lives a certain way.

I'm saying that when their choices effect others--then it goes beyond their choice.

My argument can be related to drug use. Drug is illegal because if it was legal--it would effect everyone. There are statistics to back this up.

If you don't agree with the statistics, I have no argument for what you believe.

[Fruitacious B]

Originally posted by AcTivE:
I'm saying that when their choices effect others--then it goes beyond their choice.

How does it affect others in a negative way? Just by making you uncomfortable or scared? If so, then that would put this little debate on the same level as capitol punishment, great.

[AcTivE]

It does not make me uncomfortable. It does make me scared--just for the impressionable.

Marriage is something I am going to teach my children that is something sacred. Something that should not involve divorce, but a life long commitment.

When someone at the age of seven sees that there is life long commitement between same sex, it plants the idea in their head that it is universally accepted by the culture--because it is.

It's fine if my kids know about gays at that age--but I don't want them to believe that it is something that they should consider. If they turn out to be gay--that's fine. I will love them anyway. But I do not want society to turn them into that.

Just as I don't want society to turn them into cocaine addicts because it is legal, and another seven year old tells them it's fun--and they are accepting to it because it is accepted that it is OK to do it.

If you believe gays can get married, then you should also believe that drug addicts should be able to purchase drugs legally. It is their choice. The reason their is violence relating to drug use is because it is illegal--so that is not an argument against it.

[Mr. Blonde]

Originally posted by Mr. Blonde:
There is no proof that anything GOOD comes from homosexual relations. This has nothing to do with religion... Basic biological knowledge tells us this.

Originally posted by Fruitacious B: There's no proof that anything bad comes from homosexuality either.

Like i said, nothing good, never said anything about anything bad. I'm not saying its politically right or not, to tell you the truth i could give a fuck less, i'm not worried about my kids being gay, because its a biological thing. What i AM saying, is that you can't argue that that isn't what man and woman were made for, because you have nothing to go for your defense, when we have, oh i dont know ,the entire field of BIOLOGICAL HUMAN SCIENCE.