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St. Anky · 02-24-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
The Bible (the word of God, the truth, and the only credible source to back up what people believe in)

You have no way of proving that. I could say, the same thing about the Jewish Kabala.

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Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
That is where christianity sets itself apart, it is the only religion where there are no outside influences.

Really? Wouldn't a church's organized perception of the meaning of the scriptures within the Bible be an influence altogether?

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Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
It is also the only religion where you don't have to raise yourself up to a higher level.

In essence, becoming a Christian would be seen as "raising yourself up" to a higher level wouldn't it? You must change your life, let Jesus into your heart... right?

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Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:

Every other religion has some other means of getting to God or you have to lift yourself up onto another level. There are even some catholics that believe if your Baptized you will be in heaven.

Hoe, don't act like you know shit about the catholic religion when you obviously don't.

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Originall posted by BigDongedHoe:

I understand where you guys are coming from because I to sat in your shoes and said the same thing "I do not understand where a all loving god would deem people to hell who aren't that bad of people." That is so far from the point though, people want to look at it this way "what can God do for me" rather than "what can I do for God." We are here on earth to glorify God not to see what he can do for us. The bible clearly states that we will receive a new body in heaven for eternity.

So you're saying that we were created so that a god would have someone to worship him? Thats what you're sayin there.

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Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
I don't see how people can come up with their own beliefs on there "way" to heaven when the bible (the word of God) clearly states the way to heaven.

I can. You were raised, as I was, that the Bible is the only way to god. Have you ever thought that maybe, it isn't? Right now, as a die-hard Christian I'm sure, you're thinking "there's no way the Bible is wrong, everyone around me agrees that it is right." But think just for a second what Christianity is... an organization of beliefs centered upon the teachings of a book (the word of god, as you put it). Every other religion is just the same.

AcTivE · 02-24-2004, 09:01 PM

rabbits can go to heaven too, just as long as they believe they can

St. Anky · 02-24-2004, 09:04 PM

the mind is a powerful thing...

AcTivE · 02-24-2004, 09:06 PM

yea it is. so is my wiener. i bet it could get into heaven all by itself...

St. Anky · 02-24-2004, 09:09 PM

"I have the power!"

-Heman

Pliedes · 02-24-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
The Bible (the word of God, the truth, and the only credible source to back up what people believe in)

You have no way of proving that. I could say, the same thing about the Jewish Kabala.[/quote]What exactly are we arguing over what is to be proven? And how do you define proof?

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BigDongedHoe:
It is also the only religion where you don't have to raise yourself up to a higher level.

In essence, becoming a Christian would be seen as "raising yourself up" to a higher level wouldn't it? You must change your life, let Jesus into your heart... right?[/quote]Well, that is one way of looking at it, but I think BDH might have been refering to the concept of salvation through works.

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Originall posted by StAnky:
So you're saying that we were created so that a god would have someone to worship him? Thats what you're sayin there.

If that's what he is saying, what would your objections to that be?

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Originally posted by St.Anky:
I can. You were raised, as I was, that the Bible is the only way to god. Have you ever thought that maybe, it isn't?

Yes. Thoroughly.

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Originally posted by St.Anky:
what Christianity is... an organization of beliefs centered upon the teachings of a book (the word of god, as you put it). Every other religion is just the same.

I don't put much stock into religions. But there are incredible differences between religions, you're smart enough to know that. When we break them all down though, I like the one which substantiates it's claims.

[ February 24, 2004, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Pliedes ]

Mr. Blonde · 02-24-2004, 09:53 PM

he man was the shit

Pliedes · 02-24-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Blonde:
Heman was the shit

Though not as cool as Mr.Rhodes

St. Anky · 02-24-2004, 10:13 PM

I believe that the church has mis interpreted the teachings of the Bible. If you really wanna know Za...Pli, I'll sit down and talk to you about it over a beer.

By the way, we need to get tickets man.

AcTivE · 02-24-2004, 10:32 PM

I need a place to live, it's scaring me

Pliedes · 02-24-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
By the way, we need to get tickets man.

That we do. I don't care about going opening night though.

Percipere'Chan · 02-25-2004, 01:41 AM

Hey! Remember that National Lampoon movie when they go to Europe, get stuck driving round that Cul de Sac for like hours and hours?

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

St. Anky · 02-25-2004, 01:43 AM

I fuckin hate the French.

Pliedes · 02-25-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
I fuckin hate the French.

Now if Nadar had that campaign slogan, he might stand a chance.

StabMaster Arson · 02-25-2004, 01:45 AM

Percipere'Chan · 02-25-2004, 01:45 AM

PS. - Pli, Anky,

Are you guys talkin' 'bout the "The Perfect Circle / The Mars Volta" concert?

Percipere'Chan · 02-25-2004, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by AcTivE:
I need a place to live, it's scaring me

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AcTivE, I thought you were pretty good at all that computer internet shit you do. Damn. Now, it's scaring me.

Percipere'Chan · 02-25-2004, 01:49 AM

I just wanted to post three times in a row.

Pliedes · 02-25-2004, 01:51 AM

Anky and I are actually going to check out "The Passion".

AcTivE · 02-25-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Percipere'Chan:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by AcTivE:
I need a place to live, it's scaring me

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AcTivE, I thought you were pretty good at all that computer internet shit you do. Damn. Now, it's scaring me.[/quote]What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Percipere'Chan · 02-25-2004, 01:55 AM

AcTivE- Read third post.

Pli- Is this like a version of "The Passion Play" of Oberammergau? (Jesus' life)

AcTivE · 02-25-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by Percipere'Chan:
AcTivE- Read third post.

Pli- Is this like a version of "The Passion Play" of Oberammergau? (Jesus' life)

Yea, I still don't understand. You wanted to make a third post? Alright that makes sense...pulling a Titan.

Pliedes · 02-25-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Percipere'Chan:
AcTivE- Read third post.

Pli- Is this like a version of "The Passion Play" of Oberammergau? (Jesus' life)

No. Though I have performed in an adaptation of "the Passion Play" before. This is a script by Mel Gibson I believe.

Percipere'Chan · 02-25-2004, 02:17 AM

Ah, right. I forgot. It's comming out like this weekend. I've heard something about controversy for lack of or too much emphasis on blaming Jesus' death on Jews. Not that I'm really into the contraversial stuff. But Anyway, yeah. Should be a great one to see.

I'm impressed that you know of The Passion Play. I'll have to ask you about it sometime.

[ February 24, 2004, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: Percipere'Chan ]

I Drink Alone · 02-26-2004, 02:55 AM

I don't think there is a heaven or hell. Well I guess you could call it heaven, but after you die you go to your own personal "heaven" where everything that you enjoy will be, so you might as well not worry about and have a good time because life is short as hell

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AcTivE 1 thing leads to another. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,012 Internets: -2654	yea it is. so is my wiener. i bet it could get into heaven all by itself...
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Percipere'Chan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: My Machine Posts: 460 Internets: -238	Hey! Remember that National Lampoon movie when they go to Europe, get stuck driving round that Cul de Sac for like hours and hours? Yeah, that was pretty funny.
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St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	the mind is a powerful thing...

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St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	"I have the power!" -Heman

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St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	I believe that the church has mis interpreted the teachings of the Bible. If you really wanna know Za...Pli, I'll sit down and talk to you about it over a beer. By the way, we need to get tickets man.

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St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	I fuckin hate the French.

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Percipere'Chan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: My Machine Posts: 460 Internets: -238	PS. - Pli, Anky, Are you guys talkin' 'bout the "The Perfect Circle / The Mars Volta" concert?
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Percipere'Chan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: My Machine Posts: 460 Internets: -238	AcTivE- Read third post. Pli- Is this like a version of "The Passion Play" of Oberammergau? (Jesus' life)
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Percipere'Chan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: My Machine Posts: 460 Internets: -238	Ah, right. I forgot. It's comming out like this weekend. I've heard something about controversy for lack of or too much emphasis on blaming Jesus' death on Jews. Not that I'm really into the contraversial stuff. But Anyway, yeah. Should be a great one to see. I'm impressed that you know of The Passion Play. I'll have to ask you about it sometime. [ February 24, 2004, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: Percipere'Chan ]
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I Drink Alone Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Warsaw, IN Posts: 154 Internets: 10	I don't think there is a heaven or hell. Well I guess you could call it heaven, but after you die you go to your own personal "heaven" where everything that you enjoy will be, so you might as well not worry about and have a good time because life is short as hell
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