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Elegy · 01-15-2004, 07:03 PM

Here's to no shot in '04.

Pliedes · 01-15-2004, 08:23 PM

I'm a registered Democrat.

victim · 01-16-2004, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Pliedes:
I'm a registered Democrat.

Like that'll actually make a difference...

ninjaface · 01-16-2004, 02:02 AM

If perjury and the Monica Lewinsky shit is considered "damage" to our country, someone needs a reality check.

[ January 15, 2004, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: ninjaface ]

Pliedes · 01-16-2004, 02:18 AM

Blow jobs aren't bad; but perjury and an inflated tech economy are. Clinton was an ok president. It's Howard Dean I'm worried about.

St. Anky · 01-21-2004, 03:08 PM

Yeah, I'd have to agree there. I wouldnt think Dean would be my first pick for president out of the democratic candidates, but he seems to be well liked. All I can say is, at least we'll be getting a Bush out of the White House.

Pliedes · 01-21-2004, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by St. Anky:
Dean... seems to be well liked.

Maybe among socialists and other extreme liberals, but not by the voting populus of Iowa, let alone the US.

VOL · 01-21-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Pliedes:
Blow jobs aren't bad; but perjury and an inflated tech economy are. Clinton was an ok president. It's Howard Dean I'm worried about.

I agree with all that.

I'm not sure what I am registered. I used to be hardcore right wing, but I've taken on a liberal sense lately. College will do that to you.

If John Kerry doesn't get the Democratic nomination, then congratulate Mr. Bush.

f3lix · 01-21-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by ninjaface:
If perjury and the Monica Lewinsky shit is considered "damage" to our country, someone needs a reality check.

So I assume you think it's ok that the US, viewed as the world superpower, has our leader make a total ass of our country?

Pliedes · 01-21-2004, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by VOL:
I've taken on a liberal sense lately. College will do that to you.

Like hell it will.

VOL · 01-21-2004, 05:52 PM

Oh really. It has to me. I've learned more liberal views through the diverse people that you can only find in college.

Titan · 01-21-2004, 06:57 PM

Honestly, it seems like there's been so much more liberation when it comes to sex on TV since Clinton had his little scandal. If that's true, that's fucking sad. Very sad for Clinton, but also for the ever-bored media who couldn't give fuck less about cultural progress, peace or positive ideals.

ninjaface · 01-21-2004, 09:34 PM

f3lix, as far as I'm concerned Clinton only did damage to his political reputation. I don't believe he made a "total ass out of our country". Even if everyone else thinks so, I don't give a shit.

Something that might "make a total ass out of our country" would be something like starting a war for reasons that were unfounded.

VOL · 01-21-2004, 09:40 PM

I take it you think Bush got us into Iraq for no reason. How would you like it if Saddam decided to use his WMD? The key was get him before he uses them. And Bush did that.

ninjaface · 01-21-2004, 09:42 PM

They haven't found any.. unless you found some that no one else knows about.

VOL · 01-21-2004, 09:46 PM

well, Saddam and his loyalists had plenty of time to dismantle and hide them. Iraq is a big country, they could be anywhere.

ninjaface · 01-21-2004, 09:53 PM

Ok. What about the burden of proof?

Or is that a concept as alien to you as sex without weeping? (or just sex in general)

VOL · 01-21-2004, 10:00 PM

Nice Cheap shot. If I'm not mistaken, Colin Powell and Rumsfeld have shown proof to the UN.

ninjaface · 01-21-2004, 10:08 PM

Thanks, I got it from Conan, but I digress.

You are mistaken. The only kind of evidence they have shown is circumstantial. It does not prove anything. If their "proof" did infact substantiate the existence of such weapons,(which they didn't) then why did the UN disagree with the war so adamantly? Until I see weapons of mass distruction, I will not be satisfied.

VOL · 01-21-2004, 10:18 PM

Well if it all was "circumstantial", then that's still enough evidence to attack. This isn't a rhetorical question, but do you know if Saddam has claimed having any yet?

ninjaface · 01-21-2004, 10:29 PM

I think we are going in circles here.

Whatever the case may be, the evidence was not enough to get the UN to back the war. If it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that there were WMD, then the UN would have been behind us.

Also, if we had sufficiently proven to everyone that Saddam had WMD, then why would we be searching for the "smoking gun?" For me, I stop trying to prove things after they have been established as fact. Weird, I know.

To answer your question: I don't think he has. However, I catch the latest news now and then so I could be mistaken. If he has, no one but government officials know.

Kra2h · 01-23-2004, 02:19 PM

Does anyone in here agree with me about this one thing that I've been thinking about lately?? Here it is:
The United States will never really evolve into any greated civilization than it is because of our government right now, We have Democrats for 4 years going with one plan, then Republicans for the next 4, its like a cycle of going up with an idea and some other president pushing it aside for awhile and moving onto something else... Anyone agree with me on that, or am I just an idiot about politics :?

Pliedes · 01-23-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by Kra2h:
am I just an idiot about politics :?

I'll go with that one.

tonguegina · 01-23-2004, 05:30 PM

Maybe Kra2h is right...a good old fashioned dictator is obviously in order.

Pliedes · 01-23-2004, 08:52 PM

If a dictator is what you're looking for, I'm your huckleberry.

01-21-2004, 05:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Oh really. It has to me. I've learned more liberal views through the diverse people that you can only find in college.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

01-21-2004, 06:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
Titan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,698 Internets: 10	Honestly, it seems like there's been so much more liberation when it comes to sex on TV since Clinton had his little scandal. If that's true, that's fucking sad. Very sad for Clinton, but also for the ever-bored media who couldn't give fuck less about cultural progress, peace or positive ideals.
	I do what the fuck I want.

01-21-2004, 09:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	I take it you think Bush got us into Iraq for no reason. How would you like it if Saddam decided to use his WMD? The key was get him before he uses them. And Bush did that.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

01-21-2004, 09:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	well, Saddam and his loyalists had plenty of time to dismantle and hide them. Iraq is a big country, they could be anywhere.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

01-21-2004, 10:00 PM	#18 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Nice Cheap shot. If I'm not mistaken, Colin Powell and Rumsfeld have shown proof to the UN.
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

01-15-2004, 07:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Elegy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bloomington Posts: 197 Internets: 10	Here's to no shot in '04.

01-15-2004, 08:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	I'm a registered Democrat.

01-16-2004, 02:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	If perjury and the Monica Lewinsky shit is considered "damage" to our country, someone needs a reality check. [ January 15, 2004, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: ninjaface ]

01-16-2004, 02:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	Blow jobs aren't bad; but perjury and an inflated tech economy are. Clinton was an ok president. It's Howard Dean I'm worried about.

01-21-2004, 03:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
St. Anky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,581 Internets: 6603	Yeah, I'd have to agree there. I wouldnt think Dean would be my first pick for president out of the democratic candidates, but he seems to be well liked. All I can say is, at least we'll be getting a Bush out of the White House.

01-21-2004, 09:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	f3lix, as far as I'm concerned Clinton only did damage to his political reputation. I don't believe he made a "total ass out of our country". Even if everyone else thinks so, I don't give a shit. Something that might "make a total ass out of our country" would be something like starting a war for reasons that were unfounded.

01-21-2004, 09:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	They haven't found any.. unless you found some that no one else knows about.

01-21-2004, 09:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	Ok. What about the burden of proof? Or is that a concept as alien to you as sex without weeping? (or just sex in general)

01-21-2004, 10:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	Thanks, I got it from Conan, but I digress. You are mistaken. The only kind of evidence they have shown is circumstantial. It does not prove anything. If their "proof" did infact substantiate the existence of such weapons,(which they didn't) then why did the UN disagree with the war so adamantly? Until I see weapons of mass distruction, I will not be satisfied.

01-21-2004, 10:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
VOL Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: there Posts: 2,305 Internets: -205	Well if it all was "circumstantial", then that's still enough evidence to attack. This isn't a rhetorical question, but do you know if Saddam has claimed having any yet?
	~ductor ab grandis divinitus~ CDXXVII

01-21-2004, 10:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
ninjaface Level 20 Holothetan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Space Posts: 5,245 Internets: 210144	I think we are going in circles here. Whatever the case may be, the evidence was not enough to get the UN to back the war. If it was proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that there were WMD, then the UN would have been behind us. Also, if we had sufficiently proven to everyone that Saddam had WMD, then why would we be searching for the "smoking gun?" For me, I stop trying to prove things after they have been established as fact. Weird, I know. To answer your question: I don't think he has. However, I catch the latest news now and then so I could be mistaken. If he has, no one but government officials know.

01-23-2004, 02:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
Kra2h Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Warsaw, IN Posts: 35 Internets: 10	Does anyone in here agree with me about this one thing that I've been thinking about lately?? Here it is: The United States will never really evolve into any greated civilization than it is because of our government right now, We have Democrats for 4 years going with one plan, then Republicans for the next 4, its like a cycle of going up with an idea and some other president pushing it aside for awhile and moving onto something else... Anyone agree with me on that, or am I just an idiot about politics :?

01-23-2004, 05:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
tonguegina I like dirt. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,861 Internets: 2790	Maybe Kra2h is right...a good old fashioned dictator is obviously in order.

01-23-2004, 08:52 PM	#25 (permalink)
Pliedes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 4,594 Internets: 1608	If a dictator is what you're looking for, I'm your huckleberry.