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Unread 09-23-2005, 03:43 PM   #300 (permalink)
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Originally posted by AcTivE:
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People acting in a way which an outside observer who thinks that there is a distinction between right and wrong would consider wrong.

Alright, I've been thinking about this--and I still think your logic is flawed. I'm going to tell you only "being" I think could be in that position would be "God".

And, I'm being serious..consider this situation.

Say there is an outside observer that can see a species--and determine that something it is doing is right/wrong. However, the species itself can not differiniate between right and wrong--so no decisions are ever made based upon those "values".

The outsider sees this--and thinks "that is not right, they should be doing "this" and "this" and "this' because that is the right thing to do. why are they not doing this?"

and God says to himself "hmm, because they are ignorant--let me show them what is right and wrong". (say this was really played out..i think this is situation where God all of a sudden realizes 'man' should be given choice of "knowing" or not "knowing" ...so whole eat an apple "story" or "event" happens)

so he does..then all of a sudden there is a huge amount of suffering in the world that was not present before.

then he thinks..why do these people suffer so, and how can i bring them out of it?

...basically thats somewhat how I think events played out--but it also somewhat fits w/your argument. It doesn't matter whether something is right/wrong from the outside viewer--unless they can or are going to, make a change within the system. nothing is right, nothing is wrong, happy, or sad---if nothing ever takes a side.
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Ok, I think I can make this easier by just saying the specific things these people would be doing.

If there was a world were there was no wrong or right, and there were people raping and murdering, I just don't feel this world would be blissfull.
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