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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe
Do you guys believe in the writings of plato, aristotle, or socrates?
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huge difference in acknowledging the validity of works/proving certain people existed, and whether or not they were guided by the divine. None of the three great philosophers you just mentioned, at least to my knowledge, ever made any of the unprovable, absolutist claims that the Bible does, and even if they did, none of them have churches. I'm not even going to mention that nobody has gone to wars over any of them.
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As I continue to grow as a believer I have more things revealed to me to support what I believe.
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Shocking.
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It's funny you bring up Messianic prophecies. If/when you research this you'll find that the prophecies of the Old Testament to this day are the only ancient writings that have been fulfilled with 100% accuracy to this point. Blonde after you answer the question above answer another for me. If I agree to read any book of your choosing (lets keep it somewhat short say under 200 pages), would you will be willing to read a book of my choosing?
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It's not funny or a coincidence, as it's seems to be one of the only gaps "God" has left to hide in that hasn't been completely disproved by science..yet (therefore a huge refuge and area of study for theists). There could have only been a few things you could have been referencing by your question, so I assumed that's what you were referring to. It still might not be. Either way, I have already admitted my ignorance to the topic of truth of Biblical messianic prophecies (nobody prays to Nostradamus that i'm aware of, FYI) and would certainly be open to question your claim of 100% accuracy -- In fact, even though i'm tired as balls, I think that's how I'll spend the rest of my night.
You don't have to read a book of my choosing (or we could keep it open-ended, as no-worldview shattering book comes to mind under 200 pages..), but I would most certainly be open to reading a suggestion of yours. I've gotten a lot less militant (although still a stout atheist) over the past few months after realizing how little I actually know compared to much more educated men and women on the topic, so i've been reading voraciously on both sides of the argument every chance I get. I'm reading two books on evolution right now (The Greatest Show on Earth-Dawkins, Why Evolution is True-Coyne), and just finished reading
The Dawkins Delusion and
The Dawkins Confusion (both creative names, by the way) which are critiques of, you guessed it, Richard's book "The God Delusion".
The short book and article, respectively, were good at pointing out some of the absolutism, speculation and general non-science of the book, but I would still recommend The God Delusion for anybody, faithful or otherwise to read (although the former would probably have a lot harder time staying interested). It's a great introduction to atheism and points out many of the logical fallacies religious folk bring out in almost every single discussion on the topic.
So, in short, yes i'll read a book of your suggestion if I can get ahold of it here. Shoot.