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Unread 05-04-2010, 11:18 AM   #714 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by BigDongedHoe View Post
If you give them a high historical credit you should be giving the bible that same credibility.
I'm still failing to draw a parallel between 3 philosophers who had some great ideas and a wandering desert teacher who claims he was the son of an omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent god. I'm not saying there is no good moral or thought-provoking dialogue in the Bible, and that it should be banished forever and we should burn it. I believe, just like Greek mythology, it's a valuable literary source and an important part of developing human culture. I don't, however, believe that it should be seen as anything more than that (Just like Greek mythology) and the burden of extraordinary evidence, as Dent mentioned, lies on believers, not on nonbelievers.

This seems to be your logic: Because the Bible referenced real parts of history, provable by science, everything else in it (not provable by science) must also be true.

I would like some examples of the prophecies you are touting, all i've been able to find are Bible-purported and Bible affirmed ones. (Ex: The Messiah would be a descendant of Boaz & Ruth. Ruth 4:12-17; Luke 3:32)


EDIT: A point I brought up when I first discussed these prophecies with my coworker, was this: "How can we know that the original "prophecies" (assuming their fulfillment came before Gutenberg in the 15th century) were not back-edited to fit actual historical events?"

Psychedelics are illegal not because a loving government is concerned that you may jump out of a third story window. Psychedelics are illegal because they dissolve opinion structures and culturally laid down models of behavior and information processing.

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