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Dent · 10-12-2016, 03:36 AM

People for the Ethical Treatment of Reinforcement Learners
"YOU ARE JUST AN ALGORITHM IMPLEMENTED ON BIOLOGICAL HARDWARE."
"Consciousness is what a cognitive algorithm feels like on the inside"
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/How_an_algorithm_feels

If this is true then consciousness can "emerge" when you run an algorithm irrespective and the substance you run it in, most of the people I speak with believe in this and I think it's just the flavour of the century. They think there's something it's like to be the stock exchange. And the pulley logic gate thing I linked a few years back, and your computer.

I don't think this is the case.

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DP
Many (most?) AI researchers also seem to assume that the brain has a clean digital abstraction layer: phenomenally bound minds will "emerge" (why? how?) if and when organic minds are “implemented” in a classical digital computer.

However, such unexplained “emergence” of subjects of experience reflects an assumption, not a scientific discovery. It’s not a testable conjecture that leads to any novel, experimentally falsifiable predictions. Reality doesn’t really have "levels", or rather, reality only has one level, and we’re part of it.

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Dent Lost in Hilbert Spice Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Surrounded by knaves and fools Posts: 3,517 Internets: 180237	People for the Ethical Treatment of Reinforcement Learners "YOU ARE JUST AN ALGORITHM IMPLEMENTED ON BIOLOGICAL HARDWARE." "Consciousness is what a cognitive algorithm feels like on the inside" https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/How_an_algorithm_feels If this is true then consciousness can "emerge" when you run an algorithm irrespective and the substance you run it in, most of the people I speak with believe in this and I think it's just the flavour of the century. They think there's something it's like to be the stock exchange. And the pulley logic gate thing I linked a few years back, and your computer. I don't think this is the case. ------------ DP Many (most?) AI researchers also seem to assume that the brain has a clean digital abstraction layer: phenomenally bound minds will "emerge" (why? how?) if and when organic minds are “implemented” in a classical digital computer. However, such unexplained “emergence” of subjects of experience reflects an assumption, not a scientific discovery. It’s not a testable conjecture that leads to any novel, experimentally falsifiable predictions. Reality doesn’t really have "levels", or rather, reality only has one level, and we’re part of it.