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Unread 03-15-2019, 06:45 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Just a general observation that nature hasn't designed us to be impartial, on the Savannah considering caring about anything you couldn't fuck or assist you in some way was maladaptive.
Blondie used to comment that I spent a lot of time moaning about the state of affairs of the world Here i'm just reflecting that i'm a piece of shit too but as someone who is interested in transhumanism I guess it should be taken for granted that i'm not comfortable with the way I am.
An intelligence would consider all first-person states and act accordingly, instead we are ignorant egocentric primitives. Some of us play-pretend that we're altruistic, myself included sometimes, but it's mostly just to feel better than everyone else.

“If we could read the secret history of our enemies, we should find in each man's life sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility.”

No, that barbarian and his gang are coming for you and your wife, sharpen your weapons!

What happens if designer babies are selected for impartiality, non-aggressiveness and so on? The old darwinian order is about to come to an end, and some of the established truths about the human condition are going to go the way of the dodo.

Anyway I got distracted by this


[Today 11:46 AM] Repugnant Abomination: By saying it's just their selfish genes you're removing all responsibility. With that kind of deterministic view of human action you're undercutting your own argument, because nothing you say will, or even can, change their actions.

If consciousness discloses the intrinsic nature of the physical then all and only consciousness has causal efficacy. here are some diagrams that explain the differences nicely.

As Orgazmo has learned recently our conception what we think of as physical stuff might not be as it seems.

Here's what repug is getting at


Here's one way his statement could be wrong



And the real reason why he's wrong, all stemming from a misunderstanding of the nature of the physical.



Nothing can be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causa_sui
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