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Beebs 08-08-2010 10:20 PM

Hughes vs Almeida vid from 117
 
Matt Hughes vs Ricardo Almeida Video - Fights MMA Video Details

f3lix 08-08-2010 11:13 PM

What was good about that? They danced for 3 minutes and I'm not even sure how the guy got hit, but it all looked boring to me.

vaga1220 08-09-2010 06:41 AM

F3lix seems like the sort of person who doesn't have many friends because people would rather not be around him anymore then they need to.

As for the fight. Hughes stand up looks awkward as shit, and he's been training it for a long fucking time. I don't know how he can still look so amateurish. Cool finish though, all the BJJ'ers on the boards have been like "wut?" It's called a Shults headlock and I've never seen it taught at a Jiu-jitsu gym.

EDIT: Wrestling is the shit and it's the best!!11111

thekremlin 08-09-2010 07:32 AM

I wrestled in HS and college and do JJ now, prefer JJ by a huge margin. Both as a competitor and as a fan. To be honest, if I don't know the people competing, I think wrestling is actually pretty boring to watch.

Cocktooth 08-09-2010 10:27 AM

Wrestling isn't as exciting as guys that just go in there and throw hands, but wrestling wins fights!

DJ FC 08-09-2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaw (Post 393979)
Wrestling isn't as exciting as guys that just go in there and throw hands, but wrestling wins fights!

So do guns.

Beebs 08-09-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaga1220 (Post 393977)
F3lix seems like the sort of person who doesn't have many friends because people would rather not be around him anymore then they need to.

As for the fight. Hughes stand up looks awkward as shit, and he's been training it for a long fucking time. I don't know how he can still look so amateurish. Cool finish though, all the BJJ'ers on the boards have been like "wut?" It's called a Shults headlock and I've never seen it taught at a Jiu-jitsu gym.

EDIT: Wrestling is the shit and it's the best!!11111

Fadzaev choking a guy out in a world championship with the exact move Hughes used. About 25 seconds in


Beebs 08-09-2010 01:59 PM

As for the Wrestling vs BJJ issue, it's really very small differences with guys like Hughes and say Arona; one started with wrestling, one with BJJ, but look similar on the mat. Hell, Hughes beat Almeida at ADCC in 2000, and his favorite training partner is Jeremy Horn, pioneer of the more Americanized style of BJJ in MMA (if that makes sense).

Hughes is a bit like the American Sakuraba though, taking down the Renzo gang with moves more based in wrestling.

I don't think there is any real dislike or disrespect either personally or regarding training style between Hughes and Renzo and company.

Beebs 08-09-2010 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by f3lix (Post 393975)
What was good about that? They danced for 3 minutes and I'm not even sure how the guy got hit, but it all looked boring to me.

Mostly the novelty of it, that was just one of about 5 punches Hughes has ever landed flush on the feet, the guys striking for a dominant champion is just confusingly bad.

Also you just don't see that choke very often, if ever, so again, the novelty. The "holy shit, did he just do that to a top tier BJJ guy?" factor.

Then there is the backstory; Hughes is the great champ at the end of his career, got embarassed by GSP and Alves, but still good enough to school lesser fighters; beat the hell out of Royce Gracie (Renzo's cousin), marginally beat Matt Serra (Renzo Gracie's top student), beat the hell out of Renzo, then not only beat but choked out Almeida (Renzo's other top student).

Like anything, it's much more interesting if you are invested in terms of emotion or money.

f3lix 08-10-2010 02:24 AM

Ty Beebs. That helped. Didn't know the rarity of that choke.

thekremlin 08-10-2010 04:58 AM

No one in england wrestled in high school, I love it, really looking forward to scoring some takedowns at my first british JJ tourney.

THEINCREDIBLEdork 08-11-2010 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebs (Post 393982)
Fadzaev choking a guy out in a world championship with the exact move Hughes used. About 25 seconds in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21PxT_TZqo

I could watch those two guys go at it all day long.

Mr. Blonde 08-15-2010 11:58 AM

Didn't know where else to put this. Pretty cool:


Beebs 08-15-2010 03:13 PM

Benny is legit.


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