Just starting lifting again...

[Beebs]

Well in that case at least make an effort to eat a little more protein than normal, and do the casein at night, and the whey after you workout, and inbetween meals if possible.

[Nathan]

Originally posted by Beebs:
Well in that case at least make an effort to eat a little more protein than normal, and do the casein at night, and the whey after you workout, and inbetween meals if possible.

Okay, I dont have that much money to work with here, but I think I could afford the casein at night, and the whey at least after each workout. I am making a conscious effort to drink milk more often, and other little things, like getting a chicken sandwich instead of a burger when I get fast food or something. Not that I should be getting fast food at all, but I told ya its going to be really hard for me to drastically change my diet, so what im doing is better then nothing.

[Mr. Blonde]

try incorporating either curdled cheese, yogurt, or both into your diet as well. both are fairly high in protein, and pretty cheap.

[Mr. Blonde]

Originally posted by Nathan:

I think after another week or so I am going to be looking at trying to get in the habit of working out everyday, or at least 5 times a week would be nice. Never doing the same muscle groups 2 days in a row.

I don't think this is a good idea. It's quite possible you'll overtrain yourself if you workout that much. I only workout 3 days a week really, and becasue of my diet and supplement intake, i'm doing pretty well...i'm being dead honest man, diet is HUGE in lifting.

[Nathan]

Originally posted by Mr. Blonde:
try incorporating either curdled cheese, yogurt, or both into your diet as well. both are fairly high in protein, and pretty cheap.

Definetely not doing curdled cheese. Ive never been a huge yogurt person, probably because we just never have carried it in our house fridge for whatever reason. I actually work in the dairy section at work, and I see yogurt on sale all the time, as cheap as like 3/$1.00, so maybe im going to have to do that.

Any other alternatives I could incorporate into my diet, without causing myself great pain and hunger? Like snack foods, drink choices, etc? Anything I do is better then nothing.

[Mr. Blonde]

I mainly drink water, milk, and grape juice. And alcohol. But that won't help. Man i don't see how people can't be yogurt people, they have all sorts of flavors nowadays, like strawberry cheesecake, key lime pie, etc...delicious.

[Nathan]

Originally posted by Mr. Blonde:
I mainly drink water, milk, and grape juice. And alcohol. But that won't help. Man i don't see how people can't be yogurt people, they have all sorts of flavors nowadays, like strawberry cheesecake, key lime pie, etc...delicious.

Oh trust me, I know all about the flavors. Stocking yogurt is by far the worst part of my job, people just demolish the section all day. I actually tried one of those dannon frusion smoothies the other day, the strawberry/kiwi kind and it wasn't bad at all. I looked online and that alone is 10g of protein, whereas a thing of yogurt is like 5-7g.

I just need to find myself a half way decent routine, involving starting my day out by eating the same thing, drinking the same thing, etc. Also need to keep up on taking these multi-vitamins everyday, my actual workouts, and possibly soon these protein supplements, im still debating getting them, although its quite tempting.

Ive tried to work out in the past on several occasions, and the longest I usually last is about 2 months. After then its kind of discouraging, because results are so slow, I get lazy/unmotivated etc. And im guessing the reason my results were minimal, was because I was half assing it.

[Beebs]

Originally posted by Nathan:
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Well in that case at least make an effort to eat a little more protein than normal, and do the casein at night, and the whey after you workout, and inbetween meals if possible.

Okay, I dont have that much money to work with here, but I think I could afford the casein at night, and the whey at least after each workout. I am making a conscious effort to drink milk more often, and other little things, like getting a chicken sandwich instead of a burger when I get fast food or something. Not that I should be getting fast food at all, but I told ya its going to be really hard for me to drastically change my diet, so what im doing is better then nothing.</font>[/quote]
Theres really not much difference between chicken and a burger at a fast food restaraunt, get whatever tastes better.

[Nathan]

Well I just ordered some whey and casein protein. I plan to take a scoop of the whey in milk after each workout, and a scoop of casein in milk before bed at night.

Ill keep you all updated on my progress.

[ur my bitch]

add some creatine to that and you will ee reults quicker.

[Nathan]

Originally posted by ur my bitch:
add some creatine to that and you will ee reults quicker.

Thats pushing it, I dont think I can afford all that right now.

[StabMaster Arson]

I may have some methyl 1-test still laying around I'd sell ya, it's great for beginners.

[angry pancake]

saw a container of creatine today at whole foods for $11.99. It can be fairly inexpensive if you shop around.

[hellcat]

What about when you stop taking the supplements? I've heard from some people that if they continue lifting after stopping taking creatine they see a loss in their strength and performance.

PS: greg, check your PMs.

[ November 17, 2005, 12:53 AM: Message edited by: hellcat ]

[Repugnant Abomination]

I was taking creatine for about 5 months and I recently stopped. I've noticed a big difference in my lifts. I can't go nearly as hard now and I need longer breaks inbetween. It sucks, but I'm focusing more on basketball right now and less on weight lifting.

[Beebs]

If there's a "big" difference, you're doing something else wrong.

[ November 17, 2005, 09:52 AM: Message edited by: Beebs ]

[ur my bitch]

Originally posted by hellcat:
What about when you stop taking the supplements? I've heard from some people that if they continue lifting after stopping taking creatine they see a loss in their strength and performance.

PS: greg, check your PMs.

No, you will not see a significant loss in strength, if any. What you may notice is a longer recovery time and ou may lose a tiny bit of size and a few pounds if you go off of creatine. My strength has never gone away, but I do notice that I need longer days in betwen body part training and it takes longer to recover, sometimes even between sets if I go heavy.

I have been off all suppliments for about a year. I just started back up again. But, during the time off I didn't notice any loss in strength. What I id notice was prior to getting back on the supliments, I was hurting in the gym when I went to lift, because I was lifting the day after MMA training or Jiu-jitsu training. MY shoulders were killing me, triceps, etc. Yesterday I went and did chest, and I was repping 275 ( 8 times) with no problem and no spotter, and it felt light.

[Nathan]

Got the whey protein today. Took a scoopful right after my workout. I started a little spreadsheet today as well to keep track of any improvements. I also ordered some casein, but it was on a backorder, it should be coming in about a week I think.

[THEINCREDIBLEdork]

FUCK YOU

[theMerciless1]

lol

[Nathan]

Casein actually came in today as well. The whey seems alright to me, and it has mixed fine into both water or milk. However tonight I tried the casein in milk, and it wouldn't dissolve for the life of me. I tried a spoon, and got out the egg beater thing as well. I was drinking chunks of it, it was aweful. Any clue why? It seems to be a different type of powder then the whey, but theres got to be a better way to have it dissolve, I cant stand drinking it this way.

Maybe because I am using whole milk and its too think to dissolve in? Let me know... cause this sucked. I drank it regardless, but it wasn't that much fun.

[ur my bitch]

have you ever heard of a blender? They work very well when you want to mix things. That would be a very smart thing to lok into

[Heaven Can Wait]

Why not just lay off the powder shit and eat steak?

Edit: Silly me I forgot, Our bodies evolved to consume powder products more readily.

[ November 20, 2005, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: Heaven Can Wait ]

[Mr. Blonde]

Originally posted by Ugly Bastard:
You don't have to take supplements; but they work as an easy, convienent, and cheap way to consume protein. Protein's expensive, and its hard to always have the appetite to eat as much as you should; protein shakes are great because they're cheap (think $$ per gram of protein) and they're not that filling.

Because it's hard as hell to get the proper amount of protein to readily build muscle, what the hell are you talking about anyways, you're a British weakling.

[Beebs]

Originally posted by Nathan:
Casein actually came in today as well. The whey seems alright to me, and it has mixed fine into both water or milk. However tonight I tried the casein in milk, and it wouldn't dissolve for the life of me. I tried a spoon, and got out the egg beater thing as well. I was drinking chunks of it, it was aweful. Any clue why? It seems to be a different type of powder then the whey, but theres got to be a better way to have it dissolve, I cant stand drinking it this way.

Maybe because I am using whole milk and its too think to dissolve in? Let me know... cause this sucked. I drank it regardless, but it wasn't that much fun.

The easiest way to do it is use as little liquid as possible for the stuff to dissolve, throw it in a bottle, or preferably get a shaker thats made for the purpose, add the powder second, then shake the shit out of it and chug.